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Old 12-15-2005, 02:58 PM
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This page disagrees with your account of the story:
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I don't knwo enough about this case to separate fact from fiction, but it appears that there is much more gray area to this than you are giving it credit for. If it were so obvious that this guy was acting in reasonable self-defense, why would he have been convicted? Yeah, juries are dumb sometimes, but I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that this guy is compeltely innocent.

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Here's a very thorough account:

http://hammeroftruth.com/2005/12/13/...ory-maye-wiki/

By no means should Maye have been sentenced to death. It's a [censored] tragedy.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:59 PM
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Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.

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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.

Remember the superbowl commercial linking pot to terrorism? Or the one where the baby drowned because her babysitter was smoking up?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:59 PM
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He was a jackbooted thug engaged in a pre-dawn raid, probably dressed head to toe in black and carrying a machine gun

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He was in standard uniform. He did not have his gun drawn. The police unit loudly announced their presence and knocked on the door repeatedly before knocking it down.

Maye had been awoken and prepared himself. He was waiting, on the floor, in the dark, with his gun drawn at the door, and opened fire immediately as the door was opened.

The investigation, though sloppy, concluded that this was a nonviolent marijuana dealer (hence why Officer Jones' gun was not drawn upon entry).

Please get a clue before running your mouth off on a dead police officer.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:01 PM
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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.


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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:03 PM
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The ads completely distort and LIE about the effects in a sensational way.

How many federally funded ads have you seen about cigarettes? Weed has never killed anyone. Cigarettes have killed millions, including two of my uncles, so far.

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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.

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Old 12-15-2005, 03:04 PM
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Please get a clue before running your mouth off on a dead police officer.

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Officer Jones had no narcotics task force training.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:05 PM
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It is too bad that the pro-druggies have to lie and distort a story to make it look like the police are bad and drugs are good. I guess they can win the debate by just being truthful.

It is clear, now that the facts are out, that this guy was a cold blooded cop killer.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:11 PM
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It is too bad that the pro-druggies have to lie and distort a story to make it look like the police are bad and drugs are good. I guess they can win the debate by just being truthful.

It is clear, now that the facts are out, that this guy was a cold blooded cop killer.

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What aspects of the case makes you think this? This has nothing to do with being opposed to the drug war, though it's unfortunate that the drug war led to the unnecessary ending of two lives. This is a matter of justice and whether or not Maye deserves to die for defending himself.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Cory Maye, another drug war victim

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He was a jackbooted thug engaged in a pre-dawn raid, probably dressed head to toe in black and carrying a machine gun

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He was in standard uniform. He did not have his gun drawn. The police unit loudly announced their presence and knocked on the door repeatedly before knocking it down.

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Oh, I guess that makes it ok then! Knocking on the door before breaking it down. I'll have to remember that one if I ever have to invade someone's home.

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Maye had been awoken and prepared himself. He was waiting, on the floor, in the dark, with his gun drawn at the door, and opened fire immediately as the door was opened.

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Broken down, you mean. And if this was the case, can you explain this sequence of events? There's a loud knock at your door, several in fact, accompanied by people loudly proclaiming they are the police, and a person who is not a criminal not only doesn't answer the door, he waits until the door is broken down so that he can shoot precisely one cop before surrendering? Perhaps this only makes sense when you realize that the same thugs in charge of breaking down the doors in the middle of the night then get to write the reports of what happened.

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The investigation, though sloppy, concluded that this was a nonviolent marijuana dealer (hence why Officer Jones' gun was not drawn upon entry).

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Precisely why they shouldn't have been breaking down doors at all, and precisely why it doesn't bother me one bit that the pre-dawn raiding door-breaking-down thug got what he deserved.

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Please get a clue before running your mouth off on a dead police officer.

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You can at least content yourself with the knowledge that Officer Jones' death must be somehow good for the economy. After wall, it is a drug war.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.


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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.

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We're told that the politicians are elected because the populace already knows and believes this. What then is the point of propaganda?

This reminds me of the advertising for food stamps and the post office. We're stuck with the bill, paying for "services" and programs that nobody wants. So instead of getting rid of the programs, they advertise for them instead. Brilliant.
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