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Old 07-18-2005, 10:04 PM
Nate_Dogg Nate_Dogg is offline
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Default Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

Big blind is a solid player, LP is terrible and chases draws like there's no tomorrow.

Full Party table $1/$2 blinds
LP has $100, BB has full stack, I have both covered

folded to LP who limps, I limp on the button w/ 3h 3c, Big blind checks

Flop is 7s 3s Td

Big blind checks, LP bets $9, I raise to $30, big blind flat calls ????
LP pushes all-in for $90 --- What should I do here ?
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:15 PM
wtfsvi wtfsvi is offline
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Default Re: Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

I take it you think his flat call of the bet and raise means strong made hand? If that's your read, I guess you can smooth-call and go all-in the next time action comes back around to you. If there's a fair chance he's on a draw, just push now. (Either way, you're not getting away from this hand.)

I'm raising preflop.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:18 PM
warlockjd warlockjd is offline
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Default Re: Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

I prefer a potrz to 35.

He has 2 pr or a set. Never ever ever fold without a very specific read that he MUST have a higher set.

PUSH
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Nate_Dogg Nate_Dogg is offline
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Default Re: Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

I'm worried about the big blind not LP, I'm pretty certain that LP is on a draw, but BB has shown the most strength by check calling a bet and good sized raise.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default I know. (nt)

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Old 07-18-2005, 10:40 PM
deadmoney98 deadmoney98 is offline
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Default Re: Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

Personally, a flopped set to me is almost unfoldable, BUT...

This last time this happened to me (almost exactly the same line when I had bottom set) the cold caller had middle set and I was drawing to a one outer and predictably lost my stack. Of course, that was a raised pot...

That cold call of a bet and raise has to make you sick. I would be amazed if the BB folded regardless of your action. FWIW, if you are up against top two pair and the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (worst case scenario where you are still ahead) you still only win ~38% of the time.
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:56 AM
warlockjd warlockjd is offline
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Default Re: Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

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BB has shown the most strength by check calling a bet and good sized raise

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So you automatically put him on a higher set?

No offense friend, but NL is not for you IMO.

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Old 07-19-2005, 06:14 AM
Niwa Niwa is offline
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Default Re: Unraised pot, small set on a draw heavy board

Tough decision here. Seems like a set would want to get all the money in on the flop here thus I dont understand his coldcall unless he is putting you on a set.

I would re-raise the all-in and call BB if he pushes.
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