Counting your outs in Omaha Hi

[soko]

My question is regarding counting your outs when you have multiple draws to hands that can give you a possible tie-split nut hand, like a straight when the pot odds are very close.

Say at a very loose $1/$2 omaha hi table where 7-8 people to each the flop. On the turn the pot is 10BB and it's your turn in middle position, the players are very passive nobody is raising without the nuts, the board shows a QTxx with 2 to a flush from the flop, 5-6 people currently in the hand your in middle position and you have AKJx and can't make the flush.

What would your order of thinking be for calculating your outs and how profitable this hand is if you should lay it down, raise, or call?

[Merk]

Did the x in your AKJx pair you?
Is one of the AKJ in the flush draw suit? None of them?

I'll assume no you haven't paired so the possibility that another of your x would come and possibly win as trips. Also, I'll take that no you do not have one of the flush cards.

That gives you 2 A, 2 K, 2 J, 2 9 to hit you for that nut straight, which as you say with such a field could split. Since you now know 8 of the cards, you're drawing 8 for 44 (about 18.2%). The hand as you describe it is only as good as a Clean Outside Straight Draw.

Betting here is wrong. You can't call a pot size bet either. Even, if the bet comes immediately behind you and everyone decides to school for the river, then, you have to assume at least one person is holding KJ or J9 and eating 2 of your outs and also taking half the pot at the end... if that's the case you're calling 6 of 42 (14.3%) to win 1/2 a pot on 2/3 of your remaining draw. Since everyone called, I'll assume 7 are still, in the hand including you, you're getting 1 to 4.67. Not not good for 14.3%. If for some reason you could reasonably deduce people are drawing to perhaps the low side of the straight with the small x x on the board, and misc flushes and two pairs so yes your 8 outs are all existant and good you could call for EVEN money. But, that's pretty absured.

There is probably not much implied here either. If somebody had a set QQQ or TTT in EP and tried for a checkraised flop, they'd definitely have already potted on the turn. Anyone in late position would have potted it on the flop. Unless somebody in Late just hit a set on the turn... which is possible given how many live hands are on this loose table for a low pocket pair, no hand will call any type of river bet over a couple BB. Even then you'll end up having to call with bad odds against a pot sized bet behind you after you check.

You could probably come up with a more interesting draw situation in Omaha to ponder. This one is pretty much check /fold IMO.