KJs gets capped preflop and flops OESD - Page 2

Vote4Pedro · #11 06-17-2005, 04:46 PM

folding KJs in this situation is retarded...postflop, i'd check/call, you arent getting anyone to fold

Vote4Pedro · #12 06-17-2005, 04:47 PM

agreed

hellite · #13 06-17-2005, 04:50 PM

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Agree with Crunch. You should of folded preflop. Your hand is just to susceptable and you have to cold-call to see the flop.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This must be why I crush the 2/4 so easily. You guys are playing scared and making terrible folds! No justification for folding this preflop! You need to call 1BB, and the pot is offering you 5BB (Actually better because you can be about 99.9% the poster will call the additional bet) and you want to fold because you only have KJ suited? WOW! Absolutely terrible. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

jba · #14 06-17-2005, 04:57 PM

I think folding preflop is completely nuts. you're getting 11.5:2. KJs isn't that bad is it??

the rest of the hand I like, although I might c/r the turn if the preflop action wasn't so heavy. Is that crazy?

damaniac · #15 06-17-2005, 05:05 PM

Everyone who advocated folding preflop is aware that hero is open-raising from the hijack with a poster in the cut-off, right? You are aware of how position (and posters) alter raising standards and people's perception of them, right?

morberg · #16 06-17-2005, 05:18 PM

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Flop is check/call -- you're not folding anybody, and you have about break even equity. The rest looks fine.

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I had two reasons for betting out: pot equity and hoping to slow the other two down, is this kind of thinking out of line?

The situation I wanted to avoid was me checking, CO betting and Button raising making me face two bets. I still have odds to call, but there's a risk CO will reraise behind me.

With my line at least Button slowed down (perhaps he would have anyway) and I got to close the action on the flop.

beginner · #17 06-17-2005, 05:28 PM

Don't raise KJs in MP3 pre-flop. No, you should not fold when it comes back to you pre-flop.

Flop you check and 3-bet after CO bets and button calls.

Turn you bet and call a raise.

And river you check/call.

damaniac · #18 06-17-2005, 05:29 PM

If there's a decent chance they will both just call, then it is good. However, if one raises and the other calls, you are still putting two bets on that street. Furthermore, it could go bet/raise/reraise, and then you are putting in three bets on the flop. Furthermore, given the pot size, you'd be wrong to fold for 2 cold anyway (heck, you're not far from EV neutral on all the flop bets anyway). So I'd rather check and view the action.

MitchL · #19 06-17-2005, 05:29 PM

Anyone advocating folding KJ suited preflop needs to lay off the rock or quit poker. Kj suited in late position is a powerful hand. Multiway the threat of domination as not neaarly as pronounced. You shudnt lead the flop because it might come back as 3 bets to call. ALso u might consider that their are probably 2 Aces out so your draw as not as strong a su think though still worth seeing to the river. You absolutely have to call the river. FOlding in this situation is horrible.

damaniac · #20 06-17-2005, 05:31 PM

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Don't raise KJs in MP3 pre-flop. No, you should not fold when it comes back to you pre-flop.

Flop you check and 3-bet after CO bets and button calls.

Turn you bet and call a raise.

And river you check/call.

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Wow, almost none of this is a good idea. The river is probably close, the turn I dislike, and the preflop and flop advice are atrocious (other than not folding).

Edit: the river's not close, it's fine, i just reviewed the hand. I stand by the rest of my criticism however.