Averge BB/hr rate for a "good" player- $2/4 limit games???

[StacysMom]

I know quite a few solid 2/4 grindiers. Including myself back in the day. Long term, over 100K hands, we all ended up with 1.5-2bb/100.

[goodguy_1]

I've played 172,803 $2-4 LHE Full hands at various rooms for 3.15bb/100. This was mostly in 2003/2004. I moved up to $3-6 LHE Full and ran at 2.29bb/100 over my first 142K ...in my last 39K hands of $3-6 Full I've run horrificly @1.20bb/100. Just to show you how random even 100K/150K samples are..I also ran poorly at $5-10 LHE Full @~1.00bb/100 which in the long run was all for the best becuase it forced me to focus on my best games short NLHE and short LHE. I cant play full tables any more unless the games are great..

You pay considerably less rake in $2-4 and the games are looser. In 2003/04 I think 3.00/3.50 was sustainable now I think 2.25-2.75 is more realistic.

I'm at 1.33 BB/100 at 2/4 for 30K hands and 1.53 BB/100 at 3/6 for 17K hands. Definitely room for improvement compared to others on this board, but I'm satisfied since all hands were played with some kind of bonus or rakeback incentive.

[obsidian]

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there is one poster on this board who 8 tables 2/4 for somewhere between 3-4bb/100. he says he has well over 100k hands at that winrate.

one of my housemates 8 tabled 2/4 this fall for a ridiculous winrate over somewhere around 25k hands. although 25k hands is nothing, he is very confident that with good table selecction and decent play its entirely possible to maintain a winrate around 2-2.5bb/100 (on the low side). keep in mind also that someone who 8 tables cannot concentrate nearly as much as a 4 tabler, so i would expect both my housemate and the other 2p2er would have better stats if they played less tables.

stealthcow-

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If you are making 3-4BB/100 at 2/4 why the hell would you ever play 100k hands at that level? I only played 30k hands at 2/4 where I was at 1.8BB/100 before I moved up. Rake is a serious factor at these levels.

I think winrate is very much overvalued, and that people seem to incorrectly think you need to reach a certain winrate before moving up. I've played 250k hands combined of .5/1 to my current 15/30 and I have never beat any limit for much more than 2BB/100.

Say your winrate is 2BB/100 after bonuses/rakeback. You 4-table and put in 250 hands/hour. This would put your hourly income at around $20.