QQ -- call or raise this river?

[Hoi Polloi]

I'm most interested the river play here. I called because I thought villain might have caught broadway with the J. In retrospect, earlier rounds strongly suggest KT is very unlikely holding.

Also, should I have called flop and attempted c/r on turn? I generally want to bet out when I think I'm way ahead like I do here.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

River: (16.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

[DemonDeac]

im still raising river, as it looks like villain hit two pair with that jack most likely.

you can attempt the c/r on turn based on reads on villain, and so i dont know them. its up to you

[rt1]

you played it fine. I would have raised the river and if he capped it i would have been pissed, but i pay off there (he prob has you beat!).

flop is fine.

turn is fine. actually its better you dont check raise if you think UTG is going to call your bet. say you chk, utg checks, this guy bets, you check raise... youve pretty much pussed utg out of the pot. if you lead the turn you get the same amount of bets (2bb) and this jackass cant check behind the turn, screwing over your pot.

i like it!

[StellarWind]

I have great trouble believing he 3-bet a rainbow flop with KT or T9. If he has AA he's just too clever for me. Looks like AJ. Easy 3-bet on the river.

If there was a flush draw on the flop I would think about whether he had a combined flush/straight draw.

Don't checkraise the turn. You want to trap the players in between, not crush them.

[mtdoak]

If it looks like AJ and smells like AJ.....i'd raise

[Dangergirl]

I would have also raised the river and called if he had capped. I'm thinking he had 2 pair.

[Kaz The Original]

Are there not only three hands that beat you? AA, K10, and 109.

K10 and 109 are gutshots so I discount them based on his actions... AA would have capped preflop or ATLEAST capped the turn.

[Hoi Polloi]

AJo it was. Everyone who called it will be getting a complimentary 2+2 t-shirt. Look for it in your PM mailbox!!

I should have raised.

Thanks for your comments.