KK unimproved, facing a push and a call

thatpfunk · #1 11-29-2005, 05:41 AM

6max party 100
Pusher (MP) is not crazy, just average bad. Overcaller (CO) is absolutely horrible (90/44) preflop, postflop, hell hes bad at sitting at the table.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($94.50)
Hero ($95.15)
BB ($113.10)
UTG ($46.60)
MP ($120.60)
CO ($268.73)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, CO raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($21) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG folds, MP calls $10, CO raises to $30, Hero calls $20, MP calls $20.

Turn: ($111) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP calls $85.60 (All-In), CO calls $85.60, Hero calls $60.15 (All-In).

Final Pot: $342.35

Reef · #2 11-29-2005, 05:46 AM

Reraise PF, CO has a worse hand than you- he'll most likely call. I don't particularly like KK 4 handed.

3 bet all in on the flop. You're ahead of his JT

thatpfunk · #3 11-29-2005, 06:19 AM

i dont care about pf or flop, those are uninteresting.

henrikrh · #4 11-29-2005, 07:29 AM

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i dont care about pf or flop, those are uninteresting.

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You should care, that's where you made the mistakes that got you into a very tough decision.

scrapperdog · #5 11-29-2005, 07:42 AM

If you re-raise pre flop that pretty much eliminates someone having A4 suited or something like that and makes this hand a lot easier to play on the other streets.

thatpfunk · #6 11-29-2005, 09:20 AM

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If you re-raise pre flop that pretty much eliminates someone having A4 suited or something like that and makes this hand a lot easier to play on the other streets.

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i want the bad players stack, i don't mind tough situations if i think it will increase my chances of doing so.

#7 11-29-2005, 02:39 PM

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If you re-raise pre flop that pretty much eliminates someone having A4 suited or something like that and makes this hand a lot easier to play on the other streets.

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i agree. Play up those cowboys.

thatpfunk · #8 11-29-2005, 09:15 AM

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i dont care about pf or flop, those are uninteresting.

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You should care, that's where you made the mistakes that got you into a very tough decision.

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i found the decision pretty avg and was made pretty quickly.

this is why this forum sucks, anything remotely unorthodox preflop becomes the focus of any hand discussion.

"omg, i gave up some equity pf because i know it would kill/severely limit my action against the moron postflop" oh well.

pho75 · #9 11-29-2005, 11:04 AM

LOL, Oh wait you're right, you played that hand perfectly. What masterful insight you have. Is that what you wanted to hear?

swolfe · #10 11-29-2005, 12:10 PM

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"omg, i gave up some equity pf because i know it would kill/severely limit my action against the moron postflop" oh well.

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you wanted action, you got action, you have to call...i think you're beat here a lot though.

EDIT: lol, i just saw that grunch wrote pretty much the same thing.