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10-06-2005, 05:19 PM
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Re: ??????
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The one you were trying to make is the one you were trying to make. The one you made was about the dangers of compulsive gambling. Your pal didn't "turn pro" any more than a drug addict who drops out of school to get high more often "goes pro." [/ QUOTE ] I've noticed that OP has ignored every post on this subject, choosing to instead concentrate on defending his own character and the veracity of his story. More convenient that way, I guess - if he admitted that his friend actually had an illness, he might feel like he should do something besides demonstrating his moral superiority. 
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#43
10-06-2005, 05:41 PM
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Re: ??????
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Your post reads as smug, smarmy, unctuous and self-important. I can't believe no one has mentioned that yet. You should post bail, you deserve it. Good DAYSIR! [/ QUOTE ] This is ridiculous. Also, you obviously don't know what unctuous means. Get a dictionary and a clue. His post was thoughtful and well-intentioned. Yours sounds like sour grapes. [/ QUOTE ] OK, lets review.... "Do a search for the last name "Kim" first name "Edwin"." --nice, give a guys full name and what jail you can find him in. That's what friends are for, right? "I paid for his entire weekend at a cost of $200. That night when we get back to Seattle, he tries to play me heads up for the money he owes me. This is when I realize what a bad player he actually is (going all in many times on inside straight draws, or just with Ace high), and also how degenerate of a gambler he has become. " -wow what a great, great friend.... "The only reason I'm posting this now, is because after another 10 months he is calling me again. " -great friend indeed "I know, petty crimes, but he was never "connected" to do other criminal-money making activities, so I think this is the best he came up with. As for me, I graduated last year, played poker part time the whole way through (and still do today) and now use poker to supplement my income." -this is the equivalent of stepping on your "friends" neck while showing everyone your big muscles at the same time. You call him an idiot and yourself a genius in one fell swoop. Well done. So, there you go. Unctuous: Having the quality or characteristics of oil or ointment; slippery. And I don't get the 'sour grapes' tie-in. Why would I be sour because he pats his own back the entire post while ridiculing his 'friend' at the same time? Maybe he should go SEE his 'friend' in jail. Oh right, they haven't spoken in a year now. Maybe a Christmas card will be more appropriate.... [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. "Really" "good" "friend".
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#44
10-06-2005, 05:57 PM
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I take back my thought about Supersetoy being an ass. It just sounded pretty harsh how you wrote about your friend in the original post. These are sad stories to know about and be involved.
Funny that I just forgot that my uncle is a total degenerate at gambling and have even shot himself in the jaw. He is sad too. Leeching all relatives and getting drunk as often as possible.
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#45
10-06-2005, 06:23 PM
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Funny that I just forgot that my uncle is a total degenerate at gambling and have even shot himself in the jaw. He is sad too. Leeching all relatives and getting drunk as often as possible. [/ QUOTE ] It must run in the family... Your post Edit: I guess this link above got deleted. Yknow, the one where you're begging for $20? b
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#46
10-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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Re: ??????
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[ QUOTE ] The one you were trying to make is the one you were trying to make. The one you made was about the dangers of compulsive gambling. Your pal didn't "turn pro" any more than a drug addict who drops out of school to get high more often "goes pro." [/ QUOTE ] I've noticed that OP has ignored every post on this subject, choosing to instead concentrate on defending his own character and the veracity of his story. More convenient that way, I guess - if he admitted that his friend actually had an illness, he might feel like he should do something besides demonstrating his moral superiority. [/ QUOTE ] What good is it to admit this "guy" has a problem? He's in jail, he'll be in jail more than likely until his court date, and then probably will be in jail for the next few years. Would you like me to change the subject of the post to "The dangers of compulsive gambling"? Of course he has a problem, an illness, a sickness...MOST people have the power to stop gambling before they get in too deep. What can I do for this guy? I'm not willing to pay his bail and otherwise, the best I can offer him is a visit. I don't understand how admitting to this forum that this "guy" has a problem makes any difference in my story or the responses to it. Here was original thought: A lot of kids on this board are posting about how they're considering dropping out of college. For my last two years of college I considered it too. I haven't seen one post about how someone dropped out of college, they're now completely broke, and somehow hoping to get back to where they once were (college, crappy job, etc) Why haven't I seen this post? These people are probably too embarassed about their decision or don't have internet access (maybe they're in jail?) to post. I haven't seen one post like mine on here, ever. You never hear about the kids that go broke and complain about what a shithole their lives have become. Someone replied here that the story was an "eye opener" for them. Great, at least I got through to someone. What stands out in my mind from all the "pro" stories I've read on here are ones of "financial freedom", "$50-$200/hr playing SNGs with rakeback", "being able to travel the world". That's great for them, they've all been very fortunate. If I had know about 2+2 a couple years ago and had read these posts, would I be a college graduate or making 6 figures playing online? Who knows. But with (what seems like) so many long-term winners on this site, someone has got to lose, and unfortunately this "guy" was one of them. Unlike these 2+2 pros I've read about, I make anywhere between $200 to $1500 a month playing poker online and live, some months I even lose. I can't imagine being "pro" off of these wages which is why I never did take that step. As far as the others who replied, I believe I've answered their requests: Those that nitpicked with on how my use of the word "friend" was incorrect, I have explained that situation. Those that thought that putting his full name on an online web board (although it's already available online) I've explained why I did that. Everyone has said he has a problem. Now you're asking me to admit he has a problem. Of course he has a problem, anyone could have told me that, but it's tough to help someone you can't find until they're calling you from jail. Of course I didn't see this a couple years ago when I was hounding him for money (figured he would get a job, maybe go back to school and I basically forgot about him until I received the calls) so yes, maybe I could have helped him then, but at that point many of us had just written him off.
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#47
10-06-2005, 07:24 PM
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Why would you post bail? If I had a choice between sleeping under stairwells of college dorms or getting a nice cell, I'd choose the cell.
It's not like this guy has a place to go. I could understand if he had a place and him being a jail really screwed things up for him, as it stands, jail isn't so bad for this guy.
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#48
10-06-2005, 07:46 PM
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Re: Going Pro: The Other Side
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I have never heard of an inpatient program for gambling addiction. If anyone knows of one, I would appreciate a PM. [/ QUOTE ] Hazelden in Minnesota Hazelden treats many problems on an in-patient and outpatient basis, including gambling. It's a well-regarded treatment center. Ironically (or coincidentally considering the number of casinos around the country) their facility in Center City Minnesota is on the way to St. Croix casino in Turtle Lake Wisconsin.
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#49
10-06-2005, 09:22 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Funny that I just forgot that my uncle is a total degenerate at gambling and have even shot himself in the jaw. He is sad too. Leeching all relatives and getting drunk as often as possible. [/ QUOTE ] It must run in the family... Your post Edit: I guess this link above got deleted. Yknow, the one where you're begging for $20? b [/ QUOTE ] Most likely. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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#50
10-06-2005, 11:32 PM
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Man, the more you argue, the more it looks like this thread is about how YOU can feel superior.
[ QUOTE ] Would you like me to change the subject of the post to "The dangers of compulsive gambling"? [/ QUOTE ] That would much more accurately convey the point of your post, yes.
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