SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs

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From deep stack.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t16100)
CO (t51012)
Button (t7415)
SB (t11520)
Hero (t35792)
UTG (t42109)
UTG+1 (t77086)
MP1 (t41728)
MP2 (t29855)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t11470</font>, Hero ???

[suckbot]

How willing are you to gamble for 1/3 your stack? I'd guess he either got an over on you or maybe a small PP. Either way you're at best a coin flip and probably need to hit.

I'd let it go.

He pushed for 20x BB and you have QJs.

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He pushed for 20x BB and you have QJs.

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[betgo]

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He pushed for 20x BB and you have QJs.

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So, QJs is about 47% against Ax or Kx and about even against 22-TT. It is very unlikely villain has JJ-AA. So all you are worried about is AJ, AQ, AK, KQ, and KJ. You are about a 3-2 dog against AK and 2-1 against the others.

Plus villain probably would make a smaller raise with hands that strong. You are probably close to even against a pp, Ax, or Kx. You are putting in 47% with pot odds, so the call is pretty close in chip EV.

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QJs is about 47% against Ax or Kx

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That's the equity that you need to call. Throw in the odds of KJ, KQ, AJ, occasionally AQ and AK, and this is a fold.

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QJs is about 47% against Ax or Kx

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That's the equity that you need to call. Throw in the odds of KJ, KQ, AJ, occasionally AQ and AK, and this is a fold.

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Also, cEV doesn't equal EV, etc, so if the situation's close, you should opt to lower the variance in your chip stack because lower chip stack variance translate directly to EV in MTTs. If you call here, it's either about cEV neutral or -cEV and very high variance. So, it's -EV to call and you should fold.

sorry, but i've seen monsters do this just for the reason that they think it looks like they're stealing and no big hand could possible do this, and they know a normal raise is also likely to be folded. if BB has hand (like a pocket pair or AK or AQ),they call this and now he gets paid.

uh... how is that even a question? You would have to construct an absolutely ridiculous range for this to be a good call.

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uh... how is that even a question? You would have to construct an absolutely ridiculous range for this to be a good call.

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beecause imo he's not likely to do this with AA-JJ, and those are a huge part of the -ev of the range.