Worst laydown EVER (my $7500 mistake playing the 30-60 at Oaks Club)

[phuc]

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Just curious what would happen in (most) casinos in this case....Playing $5/10 NL, my buddy and I get all our chips in on the river on the very first hand. I have AT, he has flopped a boat with A2. Board is:

A22AT. Is he considered to be "using both holecards" to make his losing aces-full? (of course, there was no bad beat at this particular club. Only at the club we normally play at [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

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It depends on the casino. First of all, most bad beat qualifying hands will not be as low as aces full of deuces, but if it was, some casinos consider tying the board to be using both hole cards, some do not. It just depends on the particular casino.

[DiceyPlay]

Where I play it's aces full of tens get beat by four of a kind or better. All hole cards must play. The most common way this occurs is when there's three aces on board. Seems like this hand would have qualified where I play.

-DP

[CrashPat]

I got a table share of very small 6k or so jackpot on a similar hand, the board was AAK88 and one person had A8, the other had AK, the jackpot went out. The rule there is Aces full of eights or better beat, in case of a hole card tying the board the hole card plays. Every where else around here is aces full of tens beat, both hole cards MUST play, no ties. Generally these reach 25-30K before they go out, except for the ones that pay specific quads, etc out of them.

And weird cases. For instance in one room I play at the last time the BBJ went out was in February, it pays out on any quad tens and it had an aces cracked gets 50 bucks promotion going. Then it proceeded to go off 3 times in a week. Once was AA against 22 on a board of AA22x, another time was AK vs AT on a board of AAKTx, and the final time was 33 against 64o on a board of 33666. The 66 was runner-runner. There are 3 tables in this room and I played there 60 hours during that week and was never there for a table share. Stupid BBJ drops kill me.

I'm mostly kidding though, the BBJ drop drives a lot of action when ANY quad tens pays 10%.. when the BBJ hits 5K or more a lot of people will play ANY 10 for any amount until the flop. I am almost sure that I am ahead on the BBJ drop just because of the action that this has given me.

Now that they have killed the aces promotion it will be even better, I really hope the cardroom manager listens to those of us that keep telling him that promotion is terrible, I would rather have the jackpot grow by the entire drop each day instead of getting killed by 250 bucks a day by aces getting snapped off 5 times during the day. This is aggravated by people playing aces and trying to lose, even some "good" players, very annoying.

I am rambling, damn vodka. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[The Goober]

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Just curious what would happen in (most) casinos in this case....Playing $5/10 NL, my buddy and I get all our chips in on the river on the very first hand. I have AT, he has flopped a boat with A2. Board is:

A22AT. Is he considered to be "using both holecards" to make his losing aces-full? (of course, there was no bad beat at this particular club. Only at the club we normally play at [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

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In the card rooms I play in, this doesn't qualify for two reasons - the losing hand has to be As full of Ts or better, and the winning hand has to be quads or better. No boat-over-boat situations.

The Oaks also now has "Happy Hour" where the jackpots
are doubled, i.e. you would have won $15,000 and
everyone else at the table would have won double
the normal amount.
Happy Hour is Sun-Thu during certain times of day,
something like after midnight and in the afternoons

[NutzyClutz]

In your example, could other player on river say, "Don't muck", before checking the river? Or would that invalidate jackpot?

[ThaHero]

I didn't wanna open this post because I thought it would make me cry.

I'm crying....(inside)

[tubalkain]

Couldn't the other player have asked to see the hand when you mucked it? I believe the OP's cards would have been live.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Dude, just read this post. Had to let you know. I have "a little bit" left in my tube o' preparation-H (it's been a rough month so it's mostly used up, but there's a smidge left). The applicator tip is slightly used, but I think in your case it'll do.

Guess you already figured out the moral of the story, so I'm really just offering some relief for your ass.

al