Bet, Check, Bet

Jeffage · #1 10-31-2005, 07:27 PM

80-160 on the World Wide Web. I have 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB. One aggressive MP limper, SB calls and I check. Flop is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, I bet and only the limper calls. Turn is the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I check, he bets and I call. The river is the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I bet.

Comments?

Jeff

bicyclekick · #2 10-31-2005, 07:29 PM

I think your turn line is ok. Betting and inducing a bluff raise from an overagro guy isn't the worst. Neither is inducing a dumb 1 bet bluff...or not getting popped by a better hand...it's all close and probably doesn't matter. Overaggros don't check behind a ton but he could easily have 6 outs here and you want money goin in.

Given the check call the river bet would have been better IMO if it didn't pair the 5. If it was like a 2 or something I'd like it better. The reason is the 5 is another pair card he could call the river with you know? So I think I like another check call.

I take it you're calling a river raise and hating life?

#3 10-31-2005, 07:30 PM

Seems normal enough. I think he shows a busted flush draw here and folds the river, or calls you down with a hand like 67 or 98. I can't see him having A9 since he limped. Kind of a awkward hand OOP in an unraised pot.

#4 10-31-2005, 07:32 PM

didnt see the river 5 paired the board....

I like a check call on the river, IMO.

mc1023 · #5 10-31-2005, 07:36 PM

what hands that you beat do you expect will call here and not value bet the river?

AceHigh · #6 10-31-2005, 08:01 PM

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Given the check call the river bet would have been better IMO if it didn't pair the 5. If it was like a 2 or something I'd like it better. The reason is the 5 is another pair card he could call the river with you know? So I think I like another check call.

I take it you're calling a river raise and hating life?

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I thought the 5 is a good card for him, because the blinds are far more likely to have a 5 than the limper. And so he is unlikely to get raised on the river, because he is now representing trips. So if he knows the opponent he can bet the river and is unlikely to get raised by hands like Kx. Course a real aggressive limper might raise on the river as a pure bluff so you have to know your opponent.

bone77 · #7 10-31-2005, 11:01 PM

his bet on the end does not signify trip 5's. at least not to me cause most people would try and c/r that on the end. plus if you thought your 9 was good then why not check and induce a bluff? or are you hoping he calls with a 6?
-tony

obi---one · #8 10-31-2005, 11:10 PM

I think you are more likely to get more money in when you are ahead if you check call river here. A lot of agressive players will still pop you here if you are beat. If he has air he will fold if you bet, but he might bluff if you check to him again.

#9 10-31-2005, 11:25 PM

he's not folding Kx. he's raising a 5. he'll bet any PP and probably ace high. so why bet the river?

Subfallen · #10 11-01-2005, 12:03 AM

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80-160 on the World Wide Web. I have 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB. One aggressive MP limper, SB calls and I check. Flop is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, I bet and only the limper calls. Turn is the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I check, he bets and I call. The river is the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I bet.

Comments?

Jeff

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Well, your line reeks suspiciously of missed flush/straight draw. So it would seem you'll get called by a lot of A-high hands/low PP hands that wouldn't value-bet the river.

I like it anyways.