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Weak or correct cautious?
I am in the small Blind with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 20-40 harrahs in East Chicago. folded to MP, any 2 card player, who limps, solid aggressive player raises, button calls, I just call, BB calls and limper calls. 5 players to the flop.
Flop 3-K-Q no 2 flush. I check and it is checked all the way around. OK where is the trap? Turn is 10 no flush possible. I am not real fond of this card either. I check knowing original limper will bet if he has any part of the flop the original raiser grabs a bunch of chips and calls. I know this could be a play, or he could of raised with AJ after 1 limper pre-flop, and now he is gonna just call to get some other calls behind him. Button folds and I call, BB folds. River is a total blank I check MP limper bets, original raiser just calls I just call. Did I play this too weak or cautious correct? Swiss Cheese P.S. My hand was good limper had a Q and original raiser mucked before I showed my hand. |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
It's hard to believe optimal play could involve checking top pair 3 consecutive times against multiple opponents.
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
I was looking for the check raise on flop.....foiled. Turn is a 10 a scary board for 1 pair. River I think a bet or a check raise was the play but I think the most I get is 1 more bet. Is my thinking flawed?
Swiss Cheese |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
Hi Swiss.
Unfortunately you played it very weakly. You should bet out on the flop and re-raise if raised back to you, or you can go for the check-raise. If you do check the flop and it's checked through, you MUST bet the turn. And the T is not a real scare card. It puts you behind only to KT, QT, and AT. Good luck! -Scott |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
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And the T is not a real scare card. It puts you behind only to KT, QT, and AT. [/ QUOTE ] What about AJ and J9s? You are also assuming no one else was check/raising the flop (and missed) with a better hand than one pair. |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
"You are also assuming no one else was check/raising the flop (and missed) with a better hand than one pair"
doubtful anyone else was going for a c/r. the farther the checking goes around the table, the less likely theyre going for a c/r. when you miss the c/r on the flop, you dont check the turn. you bet out. why let the possibility of it being checked again happen? And then if it does get bet, if you decide to check the turn, you raise the damn thing. youve just induced a bluff by checking it twice. get some ex-lax and make a move. b |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
Hey Swiss-
Sorry. I had no time last night and just shot off a quick (attempted humorous) response. AKs is a big hand that plays well both short-handed and multi-way. I think sometimes 3-betting pre-flop is fine, but not mandatory as some are implying. After smooth calling pre-flop, it might seem like check/raising (the flop) would be automatic, but did you at least consider betting out? This pressures the two players between you and the pre-flop raiser while at the same time, possibly forcing others to call two cold on a drawing board. It's tough. I see your point on the turn and river. It was a tough hand to play and I think you did fine. I've been playing almost exclusively at Harrah's lately. I must be running good to have avoided you on the one day I didn't play. |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
Thanks and congrats on the tourney win!!!!!!! I also did consider a bet on flop but with the lineup as it was, I felt as though a check raise was the best way to get head up. hope your running well, see you soon.
Swiss Cheese |
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
Screw the checkraise, protect your hand!
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Re: Weak or correct cautious?
Swiss,
I like 3-betting from the SB preflop in this situation. I'd like to get the BB and limper to fold here and play 3 handed. Also, 3-betting lets you take control (granted you are out of position, but with AKs I'm not too concerned) with likely the best hand. |
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