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Old 11-10-2003, 02:23 PM
CrackerZack CrackerZack is offline
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

banker is responsible for the money and chips. if he screws it up, he eats it. Every game I've ever played in has been that way.
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Old 11-13-2003, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

Agree with all other posters. Banker covers the bank. If a mistake was made, the banker made it.

We don't play on credit from the bank - if somebody wants to loan someone some money that's fine, but no credit out of the bank.

For our game, I made some casino type racks and the chips always "stack" to the normal buy in which makes it a lot easier than the old days of seperating all the chips and counting every single stack. (This was especially painful with the plastic chips - we upgraded to clay chips a couple of years ago!)

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Old 11-13-2003, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

Good point, (wish I'd made it)

We NEVER allow any type of credit (bank or table) and we play table stakes.
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Old 11-13-2003, 11:38 PM
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This problem has pretty much disappeared from my home games since I bought a set of clay checks. I use casino style racks to hold the checks, so I always know that one stack of $1 checks is $20, one stack of $5 checks is $100, etc. This simplifies counting out stacks and helps to speed up the buy-in process.

Another thing I did to solve this problem is to make everyone buy in one at a time, if they get their money out they better hold onto it until it goes into the "bank" (a plastic cup with a lid that I keep in my sight at all times). I make sure noone but myself (or a trusted friend who acts as the banker for the night) touches the money cup or the unbought checks.

Since I bought the new checks and instituted the above mentioned rules, the bank has only been off once, and I took the hit on the $5, since it was likely my mistake. I do not miss that days of having to count obscene amounts of little plastic chips at the end of every night just to find out the bank was off by $30 because someone couldn't count to cash in or out right, or was simply cheating us.
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Old 11-14-2003, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

Hey, charge the players a small fee, say $1 or so each session to cover [censored] like this. If you find yourself with, say $70, stop doing it and keep the 'insurance.'
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Old 11-14-2003, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

Good luck with this.

When we decided to upgrade to clay chips, all the regulars agreed to chip in (no pun intended). I bought the chips and to make it fair to all (some are regulars, others are occasionals) I charged $2 a head (including myself) each game until the chips were paid for. After a couple of months this got to be like a wrestling match over something everyone previously agreed on.

If you can get your guys to give you money for "just in case you make a bank mistake" more power to you.
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Old 11-14-2003, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

It's an interesting dilemma, but it could be worse. My home game is at a fraternity house (i.e. neutral ground), so there really is no banker to take repsonsibilty. It's a game among friends, so mistakes are difficult to deal with without making accusations. When I guy buys in, he takes the box, counts his own chips, and puts his money in. I know this sounds idiotic, but usually it works. However, when there is a mistake we can't just say, "banker eats it." It takes forever to deal with.
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Old 11-17-2003, 05:55 PM
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This is a huge mistake and will eventually cause problems. Somebody needs to be the banker. It's not so much a trust issue as it is an honest (drunken?) mistake issue.
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Old 11-20-2003, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Dilemma from last nights home game...

I have hosted a weekly 5-10 stud/8 home game for over 7 years now. Early on I had a similar problem with the bank being short. I could not figure out if I gave out too much change or if someone was bringing extra cheques. Most home game cheques are easy to obtain. As the house I was responsible for the short money. I would never dare to ask the other players to fix something that was my responsibilty.
Anyway, since then I bought custom chips from pokerchips.com . Sure they cost a lot, but are worth every penny, as I know no one else has the same set. I also know the exact amount of chips I have for sale in the game. Therefore, I know if any are missing or extras were snuck in. Secondly, I made a standard buy in (in my case $500)and have all my buy ins precounted in a chip case. This way I eliminate room for mistake in the flurry of all buy ins. Hope all of this was a help.
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Old 11-21-2003, 02:50 AM
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I would count out stacks of chips beforehand ($50 blocks) and arrange them in your case so that you can easily pull a block out and add a few chips.

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Exactly. We played with change for over a year in our micro-limit home game. I was never short of course, but when we started trying to keep score, we saw plenty of inaccuracies. It was often difficult to get an honest total from eight or ten people.

We and bought a set of chips about eight months ago. Accuracy of scorekeeping improved dramatically but, since I host most of the games, I'm the banker, and it turned out to be a bit more work than I expected.

The first thing I did was, instead of sorting the chips in the case by color, I sorted them into stacks of $10.00. If someone bought in for $10, they got one row from the case.

When we did our first no-limit hold 'em tournament, I put the $10 worth of chips into ten Ziploc bags, each with a number on it so people could pull their chips and draw their seat at the same time. We ended up using the bags for several weeks afterward. It made things even easier. Someone handed me a ten, and I tossed them a bag of chips.

We've since spent a few bucks and graduated to the clear plastic chip boxes instead of Ziploc bags, but it still works the same. Ten bucks gets you one box. I stack the chips up and count them a day or so before the game so I know everything's all even. When a player cashes out, the chips go back into his/her original box. Since we're keeping score now, an added benefit is that, even if you can't depend on an accurate chip count from drunk players (or worse, a drunk banker) at the end of the night, all the chips are in boxes for you to review the next day.

Of course, the fact that we all trust each other helps.
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