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#1
08-12-2005, 11:52 PM
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missing turn raise
No reads as I just sat down. Should I be raising this turn and calling down if 3 bet? What about if I raise the turn and am check raised on the river?
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls. Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls. Turn: (10 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds. River: (13 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Final Pot: 16 BB 
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#2
08-13-2005, 12:01 AM
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Re: missing turn raise
not raising the turn is bad. you might be against a flush, but at least you have plenty of outs to the boat if you are. with 5 players there's a better chance that one of them has it, but still, there's a decent chance that nobody does, and if nobody has it, then certainly some of them have draws so you need to charge them, and maybe if your really lucky nobody will have a big heart, so if they fold the little ones you could possibly win even with a 4th one coming.
if you get 3bet obviously you have to call to at least see the river, then if you miss either fold river, or call 1 bet depeding on how the action plays out.
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#3
08-13-2005, 03:01 AM
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Re: missing turn raise
Raise the turn, MP doesn't need a flush to bet here. You'd especially like to get small hearts to fold that won't call two bets but will call one. Even if MP has a flush, you have 10 redraw outs. The pot is big, you have top set, raise.
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