AKs: I raise, get reraised....

DonButtons · #1 02-12-2005, 06:13 PM

NL Hold'em Trny:9484435 Level:6 Blinds (75/150) - Saturday, February 12, 01:34:57 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table(242195) Table #8 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: g4295 ( $6720 )
Seat 5: eurtrader ( $3189 )
Seat 6: ccchun ( $5005 )
Seat 7: ExtremeRob ( $2500 )
Seat 8: SCOOPTHELOOT ( $2382 )
Seat 9: thrums1 ( $3615 )
Seat 10: bads33d ( $7530 )
Seat 1: Nouri ( $3195 )
Seat 4: eXwYZeguY ( $1160 )
Seat 3: Biemma ( $3970 )
Trny:9484435 Level:6
Blinds (75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bads33d [ Ad Kd ]
thrums1 calls [150].
bads33d raises [450].
Nouri folds.
g4295 folds.
Biemma folds.
eXwYZeguY folds.
eurtrader raises [1500].
ccchun folds.
ExtremeRob folds.
SCOOPTHELOOT folds.
thrums1 folds.
bads33d ??

Important side notes:

Blinds are 75/150. 151 people left out of 480 in a $100 NL multi on party poker. Avg stack is 3200

My notes on the villian: Not that good of a player, on the fishy side. Called my check/raise on the turn before, with a gutshot draw, and called large bet on a river before with bottom pair when he missed gutshot. Q7 btw.

Whats my move?

schwza · #2 02-12-2005, 06:41 PM

looks like a pretty clear push to me. getting all-in for 20x with AKs isn't terrible against an unknown and it sounds from your read like he could be splashing around with AJo or something.

Swede · #3 02-12-2005, 06:53 PM

A push might get a call from AQ. Otherwise picking up the pot right here seems fine to me.

skoal2k4 · #4 02-12-2005, 06:54 PM

If he's a fishy player, I think you gotta put him all in. Should you lose, you're still above average stack with low blinds.... so, push

wAzZu24 · #5 02-12-2005, 07:10 PM

This seems like a standard push situation, but im not so sure. I kind of like folding and keep your 7100, still 4000 more than average. I want to play against this guy postflop, not preflop. Postflop he calls you with gutshots and bottom pair, exactly what you want him to do. I probably would have mindlessly pushed and hoped for the best, but if you fold and leave it behind you youre still the table leader and in a great spot to continue on strong in the tournament. I was watching (although not in my best state =]) so i know what you did, looking forward to hearing why.

Haiku Answer · #6 02-12-2005, 07:45 PM

Fish note makes it clear
Slick too good to lay down here
Push and be happy

USS Gut Shot · #7 02-12-2005, 08:08 PM

From your description it seems the fishy player may tend to be more of a caller. In that case his reraise may be a very good hand.

You can still cansider pushing here, but with double the ave stack and the table lead a strong case can be made for folding.

Good post...

Absolution · #8 02-12-2005, 08:13 PM

Against a clueless player I think it's an easy call. He'll have weaker aces and KQ enough of the time to probably turn this profitable. I'd say you're about 60% to win against the hands he's likely to hold: AA-TT AK-AJ and KQ.

Against a good player this would be hitting the muck very quickly.

BlackAces · #9 02-12-2005, 09:26 PM

I think it's a push for sure, especially out of position.

DonButtons · #10 02-12-2005, 10:20 PM

I'll post the results and my though process after I get some more responses. Since this is a situation that comes up often in multi tables, it might be good to discuss about it.