Would you make this move?

[Harmonica]

Hi

Could someone please tell me whether I played this hand right, I had I niggling feeling that when that queen came that he had out flopped me.

Thanks in advance

#Game No : 2439412269
***** Hand History for Game 2439412269 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, July 28, 18:58:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 37187 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: jackieboy_ ( $63.05 )
Seat 7: Hilan1592 ( $56.55 )
Seat 8: whuhuh ( $50 )
Seat 6: Bannock9 ( $45.25 )
Seat 9: gun_for_hire ( $39.85 )
Seat 4: liberatorjg ( $71.35 )
Seat 2: ahnuld2 ( $59.30 )
Seat 5: dkflash ( $55 )
Seat 10: Dimpz81 ( $44.25 )
Seat 1: heyboyo ( $49.50 )
Bannock9 posts small blind [$0.25].
Hilan1592 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jackieboy_ [ 5c 6d ]
>You have options at Table 36962 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36962 Table!.
whuhuh folds.
gun_for_hire folds.
Dimpz81 folds.
heyboyo raises [$2].
ahnuld2 folds.
jackieboy_ calls [$2].
liberatorjg folds.
dkflash folds.
>You have options at Table 36962 Table!.
Bannock9 calls [$1.75].
Hilan1592 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 4h, 5h ]
Bannock9 checks.
heyboyo bets [$6].
jackieboy_ raises [$15].
Bannock9 folds.
heyboyo calls [$9].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
heyboyo checks.
jackieboy_ is all-In [$46.05]
heyboyo is all-In [$32.50]
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
heyboyo shows [ Qs, Qc ] a full house, Queens full of fives.
jackieboy_ shows [ 5c, 6d ] three of a kind, fives.
jackieboy_ wins $13.55 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, fives.
heyboyo wins $98.50 from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of fives.


ps sorry its displayed like this but i can seem to get the hand converting to display the bets for the turn and river.

[ajmargarine]

FOLD PREFLOP. No way you should be in this hand in the first place. That being said, no way you can put him on QQ there and fold your trips with you only having to call a pot sized bet because of your stack size. All in all, it's poetic justice for playing this junk. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[amoeba]

preflop call is ok especially if villain is prone to stack off like he likely would have here had the Q not hit.

[jskinn04]

Only three hands that you could be worried about (A-5), (4-4), and (Q-Q). His flop bet was could have been a continuation bet with any overpair, high card hand, or hand with a flush draw. When he called your raise, he probably had either an overpair or a flush draw. With a turn card that didn't complete the flush, your bet seems to make a lot of sense.

I don't think you can really bet much less because you're probably committed to calling the rest of your stack on the river if you don't put it in yourself now. Your opponent might have put you on a hand like (7-7) through (9-9) so he would have called a fairly large bet with two overcards and a flush draw. You can't let him call less than your full stack on 4th street b/c he will fold on the river if he misses his draw. You can't live in fear that a turn card made trips for your opponent.

[ajmargarine]

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preflop call is ok especially if villain is prone to stack off like he likely would have here had the Q not hit.

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BS. 5-6 off-suit calling a PFR with 2 players still to act behind is terrible. Plus, there's only one player in the hand so far. Terrible.

[amoeba]

I used to be of the mindset that I would rather have multiple callers before I called in these spots but these days I would rather be headsup against PFR because you have folding equity when pfr misses his overs but multiway you can't really bluff him out. If you flop a draw multiway its more likely that somebody else hits a hand and makes your draw incorrect.

example : I call with 56 after a pfr raise and 4 callers, flop comes K 3 4. pfr bets, guy raises, I fold.

I would much more prefer this situation HU.



didn't realize they were offsuit.

[ajmargarine]

I understand what you are saying but there's 2 players and then the blinds left to act. If you want to do what you are proposing, then you need to raise preflop yourself in this situation. Even a minraise usually shuts everyone else out with marginal holdings and you get HU with position on the PFR.

[amoeba]

yeah, I didn't read carefully enough. in this case I belive 56o is a fold.

[Snag]

Rarely if ever is calling w/ 56o correct. You need three or four callers before you, and even then... it's a toss up. Suited? I like calling with it anywhere in these games and taking in a flop.