2 sets on monotone boards

AllIn3High · #1 07-08-2005, 02:53 PM

Which did i play worse:

CO is unknown.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG+1 ($120.95)
MP1 ($94.7)
MP2 ($100.25)
MP3 ($35.6)
CO ($78.6)
Button ($87.7)
Hero ($151.75)
BB ($18.5)
UTG ($72.7)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5. UTG posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP2 raises to $3, MP3 calls $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $2.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($13) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets $12, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $12.

Turn: ($37) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $20, CO raises all-in, Hero calls $43.60.

Final Pot: $161

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

BB ($226.5)
UTG ($291.6)
UTG+1 ($262.85)
MP1 ($433.67)
Hero ($232)
MP3 ($260)
CO ($184.6)
Button ($196)
SB ($201)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds.

River: ($20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero raises to $55, UTG raises to $125, Hero calls $70.

UTG is 28/9/2.13 but he's been playing OK.

Final Pot: $270

jkkkk · #2 07-08-2005, 02:59 PM

Hand 1, Although i'm not getting away from this either.

edit: for some reason I read the call in question for being on the flop, giving you good odd's, I'm folding this in an instant.

jkkkk · #3 07-08-2005, 03:01 PM

Actually, i'm stupid, Hand 2, wow you played this wrong.

AllIn3High · #4 07-08-2005, 03:01 PM

Even though I didn't state it in my original post, I wouldn't mind hearing about a better line [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

swolfe · #5 07-08-2005, 03:04 PM

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Actually, i'm stupid, Hand 2, wow you played this wrong.

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i disagree, i think this was fine, although i'd have made a bigger river raise.

EDIT: a strong case can be made for raising the turn, but it's fairly likely that there's already a made straight or flush out there, so i think calling to keep the pot small and look for a paired river is good.

jkkkk · #6 07-08-2005, 03:07 PM

Ok, Hand 2:

Raise the turn, fold to a re-raise. If you get called fold to a decent sized bet on the river or check through.

Hand 1:

I like it, up until the call, you have odd's against absolutely nothing he holds. (within reason)

jkkkk · #7 07-08-2005, 03:17 PM

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Actually, i'm stupid, Hand 2, wow you played this wrong.

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i disagree, i think this was fine, although i'd have made a bigger river raise.

EDIT: a strong case can be made for raising the turn, but it's fairly likely that there's already a made straight or flush out there, so i think calling to keep the pot small and look for a paired river is good.

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You make a good point about hoping the board pairs, but i don't like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] taking a cheap card here. Raising the turn also gives him the chance to get away from a made flush which is probably going to take the pot down @SD or a bigger set which might re-raise giving him a chance to get away from getting involved on the river with a paired board.

elus2 · #8 07-08-2005, 03:18 PM

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Ok, Hand 2:

Raise the turn, fold to a re-raise. If you get called fold to a decent sized bet on the river or check through.

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you automatically put your opponent on a bigger set?

jkkkk · #9 07-08-2005, 03:22 PM

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Ok, Hand 2:

Raise the turn, fold to a re-raise. If you get called fold to a decent sized bet on the river or check through.

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you automatically put your opponent on a bigger set?

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Of course not, but if villain re-raises, I'm going to assume its to a decent amount, which means he either he has the flush OR a higher set, allowing Hero to get away with the safe knowledge he hasn't got the odd's to pair the board against a flush and even if he had, the reverse implied odd's of villain having a higher set make playing the hand any further a bad idea.

swolfe · #10 07-08-2005, 03:22 PM

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you automatically put your opponent on a bigger set?

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or [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flush or 86