KTs TP vs weird river action

DavidC · #1 06-02-2005, 11:59 AM

Limper is LAP, Villain is LPP. 12 hands on limper, 24 on villain.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

irishpint · #2 06-02-2005, 12:07 PM

i get the feeling BB had QT for a straight. He wouldn't have bet the turn with his OESD for fear of you raising him, since you've bet or raised every possible time. While it's possible he's stting on K5 or something i think it's unlikely that he'd 3bet you with a hand like that. So either straight or lame 2pair and i think i just call his bet. Weird that he woke up, isn't it?

Isura · #3 06-02-2005, 12:07 PM

I wouldn't raise the river. He's either bluffing or betting a better hand. I don't think villain is waking up and value betting a worst hand than yours on the river.

gharp · #4 06-02-2005, 12:11 PM

I'd definitely bet the turn. There's a decent chance he'll fold and you've got lots of outs to improve (overcard + double gutshot) if he doesn't.

I'd raise the river too (and call the 3-bet, like you did). I think he's taking a shot at you since you showed weakness on the turn.

istewart · #5 06-02-2005, 12:12 PM

I'm not sure. I partially agree, but there's a good chance Villain missed a turn check-raise with a jack, or has a worse random king.

FlyingStart · #6 06-02-2005, 12:17 PM

Could it be some weird slowplay maybe? Hitting a set on the flop or something like that?

Isura · #7 06-02-2005, 12:19 PM

The way villain played he could also have K4,K7,K9,KJ. So I don't mind paying off 1BB against these hands. But raising puts us in a tough spot since I don't see many hands that we beat flat call our raise, but we have to call a 3-bet given the pot size and no reads.

krishanleong · #8 06-02-2005, 12:20 PM

Raise the river, fold to a 3-bet.

Krishan

DavidC · #9 06-02-2005, 03:56 PM

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Raise the river, fold to a 3-bet.

Krishan

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I hate doing this, but it seems surprisingly wise. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(I think that if I can't fold to the three-bet, I should call the bet... this may actually be the best line regardless.)

Blew my mind, but he'd called down to the river with AKs clubs, and REALLY liked his top pair.

I figured that he'd be betting any made hand on the flop here (like A4) because of the weakness that I'd shown (keep in mind that they don't consider that I'll fold, often enough), so I would probably be in a position to value raise. I was incorrect though.

If I were to be betting the turn, it would be for value (high card king good kicker). Thus, it would be a pretty thin bet. Not saying I haven't done it in the past, just that it's pretty thin.

wabe · #10 06-02-2005, 06:24 PM

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I wouldn't raise the river. He's either bluffing or betting a better hand. I don't think villain is waking up and value betting a worst hand than yours on the river.

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