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hideousness on every street?
No real reads here. Uncomfortable on all streets.
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls. Flop: (10.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (6.83 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. River: (9.83 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.83 BB |
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Re: hideousness on every street?
That really does look uncomfortable. To overcall the river though, you have to figure BB for QQ or JJ and also for UTG+1 to have something you beat. I think you have a solid fold on the river.
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#3
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Re: hideousness on every street?
PF/flop/turn perfect.
river v clear fold... why would you pay off here? how ridiculous is that? |
#4
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Re: hideousness on every street?
what I want to know is how you have no real reads at a full table like that. Just seems unreasonable considering the tools available today.
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Re: hideousness on every street?
what sorta overcall on the river is that?? woah man!
otherwise it's fine. you could raise the turn. |
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Re: hideousness on every street?
If you're planning on calling the river no matter what, you might as well semi bluff raise the turn, maybe mp will fold some hands that beats you.
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#7
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Re: hideousness on every street?
[ QUOTE ]
No real reads here. Uncomfortable on all streets. Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls. Flop: (10.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (6.83 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. River: (9.83 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.83 BB [/ QUOTE ] fold the river. i may even consider folding the flop. what can BB have that you beat here? |
#8
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Re: hideousness on every street?
If it weren't for UTG is would be an easy call down...
Flop bet could easily be a continuation bet by BB. UTG could have a worse king, JT, JQ. You have backdoor flush and straight draws. 5 cards for two pair. (discount these to 4 outs) If a brick falls on the turn and BB bets and UTG calls I think it's a fold. Problem is comes when a brick falls and BB checks on the turn, UTG will often bet his worse King or A high. So you have another borderline decision. IMO this borderline decision is what makes the flop hard to play. EDIT: forgot this was 9 handed. Flop call is very boarderline if the BB and UTG are reasonable players. |
#9
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Re: hideousness on every street?
Raise the flop to see if BB 3 bet's, which may also get UTG out. If he 3 bets again OOP and leads the turn, peel that card and fold river UI. That would be too strong a play for QQ or TT there.
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Re: hideousness on every street?
Not so hot on that river overcall. When I first looked at the hand, my first thought was to pop the turn. Probably what Id do.
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