Fuk!!!

I've been playing poker for 11 months now. I'm a decent players and can raise a bank roll. My problem is I have problem keeping it. Lately I've lost my whole bank roll of 20k and now starting back at 1-2 and 50-1 NL. These guys down in these limits are bad. I can't beat them! No matter how much I study and play these players they're super draw out artist. You can't push them out of any pot if they're on a draw. They call raises with anything suited. You raise and get 10 guys calling and whoever hits the flop wins. Like a crap shoot. Anyone have any advice on playing these monkies. How did everyone start? some players said they started with 30 dollars and never deposited since.

[bluechip270]

Try playing titer. That way, it will lower your variance/swings.

In terms of bankroll mangagment, that is a tough one. I had problems with that earlier, but what helped me was to compute my hourly rate. Playing poker when you know your TRUE EXPECTED hourly rate makes you play better I think.

Good luck

[Niediam]

Playing tighter is wrong. If anything he should be playing looser verses poor opponents...

[srm80]

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Playing tighter is wrong. If anything he should be playing looser verses poor opponents...

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by looser, do you mean lowering your standards preflop or just chasing draws and paying with with TPMK like the other loose players do? or do you mean playing loose before the flop but outplaying if the flop gives you a lot of equity?

[Niediam]

I mean you should exploit your small edges as your opponents will give you plenty of opportunities to take their money. You definately should still not be calling bets with a draw if you do not have the proper odds to continue.

i disagree. weaker players tend to play more hands, and if there are a lot of weak/loose players at the table, you need to play opposite of the table style, which in this example is likely to be loose. play tight and let them pay you off

[Niediam]

If your opponents are playing weaker hands then your weaker hands become more valuable. For example...

If a tight player who only raises say AA-QQ were to raise then throwing away JJ would be automatic. But if a looser raiser who might raise with AA-77 and AK-AT raises then JJ is good enough to reraise.

Does that make sense?

I play 25/50 and .5/1 and have been succesful so far. To me if your raises are being called by too many people raise less often and wait to raise pots with top hands 9-9 to AA, AK, and AQ suited (few more on the button).

Also, raise those 1x-2x the blind you are doing now. If they all still call and you miss the flop with your AK then just check down and fold to any bet that is half the size of the pot or larger. It's just not worth it.

If you have an AK and hit a flop with draws on it you have to bet the size of the pot and hope they drop. They won't ALWAYS draw out on you. They just won't.

[Niediam]

How can it be a bad thing if they are calling with draws when they do not have the proper pot odds? You WANT them to call. Think about it.

The Theory of Poker covers this fairly well when discussing the Fundimental Theory of Poker.

[macdaddy991]

This should go in everyone's favorite list