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Old 12-21-2005, 06:59 PM
tewall tewall is offline
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Default 6 Max SNG\'s

I looked for posts on this but couldn't find anything. Does anyone play these? Has there been discussions on the pros and cons of 6 max vs. full table?

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Old 12-21-2005, 07:11 PM
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I play 6 max regularly, but I play them at pacific poker where they pay out top 3 instead of top 2. This greatly reduces variance.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

IT also greatly reduces profit for a good player. Though you can probably still make more per hour on either of them cause they take less time to play... but if your 8 tabling full sng's.. Can you 8 table a shorthanded Sng. Its pretty hard even doing 3-4 of em and I used to do 8 tables of ful table.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:43 PM
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I have been specializing in Crypto's high-stakes 6-max(130, 215, 320 buy-ins) SNGs they call Sixpaks. The main disadvantage is that they are high-maintenance -- while its relatively standard to play 6-8 table sets of full SNGs, I max out at about 3-4 of these at a time for optimal results. This cuts into hourly wage.

Another key aspect is the 75-25 payout structure. Superior heads-up game tactics are essential in this format. Most people do not focus on heads-up in SNGs, but 1st place is where the money is, and this is a very exploitable flaw if you can make proper adjustments well. They key is to make to heads-up - then you unleash all of the reads you accumulated. It is not as random as most people make it out to be - it can be random if you face a good HU player, but most SNGers suck at HU.

If the heads-up starts early (sometimes 1 guy will take the other 4 out at/before Level 4), you have a chance to probe your opponent for weakness, lie low until blinds get big, and then drop the hammer.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

I found the payout structure frustrating.

And actually looser play is rewarded so the fish play better by accident.

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Old 12-22-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

I don't like them. Six handed play forces you to widen your range and play poker against players who potentially don't know how to play poker. And, there is less dead money.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:46 AM
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Think about all the dead money in the 10 handed SNGs...
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

preface: I don't multitable.

I have begun playing stars 12+1 6max exclusively.

I love em. Stay away. pleeze.
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:33 AM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

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Think about all the dead money in the HU SNGs...

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Old 12-22-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

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play poker against players who potentially don't know how to play poker.

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And the bad thing about that is.............???

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And, there is less dead money.

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In a 9 player Stars SnG, there are usually 5-6 players who are totally clueless. In a 6 player Stars SnG, there are usually 3-4 players who are totally clueless. A regular $10+1 and a $12+1/6 max pay about the same to the winner. So I figure about the same value in both.

The two main things that strike me about 6 max at Stars (the only place I have played them):

1. They take about the same time as a 9 player SnG, which seems like entirely too much time; and

2. 6 max players for some reason are much worse at HU play.
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