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Old 12-16-2005, 05:34 PM
IdiotVig IdiotVig is offline
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Default Limping AA UTG, L1

Assume, for the sake of argument, you're playing against a typical 55 lineup. How often do you limp AA UTG, with the blinds at 10/15?

And regardless of your answer, how necessary is a move like this at the 55s (Rephrased: if you were to never do this, how much equity would you be sacrificing? forget about the infrequency of the problem, for argument's sake)?
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Old 12-16-2005, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Limping AA UTG, L1

Never.

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Old 12-16-2005, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Limping AA UTG, L1

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Old 12-16-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Limping AA UTG, L1

in the early part of a 27, i limp this alot because there's always some donk who will raise with trash. of course i reraise. when there are fewer donks left, i raise it.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:13 PM
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What do you gain by limp re-raising that you don't by just raising
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:14 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Limping AA UTG, L1

0.1% (never say never [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

I'd prefer to save the limp-reraise or minraise-reraise/call the all-in with AA for the bubble, and even then only when I think the table situation is near-perfect.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Limping AA UTG, L1

I see nothing wrong with it. You raise 45-55 UTG and you will probably get 2-3 callers. They hit their K/Q/J and you might get a little action. They hit better and you are going to find yourself in a difficult situation with stacks so deep. On the other hand if you limp it once in awhile, it is very likely the action will come back to you after a raise and you can 1) get more chips in preflop and 2) cut down on the number of your opponents.

L2+ I'd agree that it's -EV to limp AA UTG. But I'm fairly confident that it's not a bad move to use once in awhile at level 1--you'd be amazed at how many dorks will get all in with their AK/AQ when you reraise.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:15 PM
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Maybe after I smoked a kilo of crack followed by a bottle of wild turkey. And even then, only when someone has a gun to my head.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Limping AA UTG, L1

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You can sometimes clear out some small pairs. If you raise to t60, there is a good chance that you'll get called by a mid pair, which will then give the implied odds for other small pairs to call.

If you limp and the same player that would have called with 88 now pops it to 60 and gets 2 callers behind him, now you have a chance to force some of them out out of the hand with a substantial re-rasie. The last thing you want is to get in a multiway pot with a couple smaller pairs looking to hit a set against you.

The caviat is that you have to learn when to let go of you aces post flop when you don't get anyone to raise preflop.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:23 PM
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