3-betting as opposed to folding situations

[Wynton]

But ckessel, one of my questions specifically was directed to 3-betting a weak/tight player, when we know the blinds will fold. So under your reasoning, why are we 3-betting there with just J10s of the hands I originally mentioned?

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But ckessel, one of my questions specifically was directed to 3-betting a weak/tight player, when we know the blinds will fold. So under your reasoning, why are we 3-betting there with just J10s of the hands I originally mentioned?

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JTs is a candidate because I think it's less likely to be dominated than a K, Q, or weak Ax hand. JTs also has more potential to flop a made hand or draw, while KTo or A8s is less likely to flop a good draw and any pair you hit is very suspect to domination. JT is suspect as well, but I don't think as suspect as a A, K or Q against a weak-tight raiser.

And you can't assume the blinds will fold. You can hope, but if one of them has a hand, they'll come along. JTs is more flexible if a blind calls or raises. If you 3 bet A8s and a blind calls, there's a damn good chance he also dominates your Ace. JTs may be dominated, but it plays multiway better than A8s will.

Again though, I think 3-betting any of the hands is usually bad, even on a weak-tight raiser. If I was going to pick one of the hands to occasionally make a move with though, it'd be JTs.

What do you guys think of 3-betting pps? I like to do it a LOT. I know that they probably dont have equity by themselves but they play so good in position. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Wynton]

As I mentioned earlier, I feel that pocket pairs of 88 and up are easy 3-bets at most tables. 77 and 66 feel borderline against unknowns.

Yeah I 3-bet 88 easily but I meant like isolating with 44-55. I have done it a couple of times recently and I feel quite comfortable with it if you have a somewhat decent image(ie they have to believe you only do this with AK,TT or something).

[sthief09]

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I fold them all. Domination sucks.

Guy.

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but position and initiative do not

[Spicymoose]

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If the ones I mentioned before were clear folds, then how do people feel about 3-betting with AJo, A10s, A10o, KQo and 77 (with the lineup I mentioned before)?

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I 3-bet all of these hands pretty often, but not always. Sometimes I fold them if the raiser is too tight, and in an early position. Err, 77 I never fold.

[krishanleong]

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I fold them all. Domination sucks.

Guy.

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Same.

Krishan

[Wynton]

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I fold them all. Domination sucks.

Guy.

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but position and initiative do not

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Don't tease me Josh. Are you suggesting that you might 3-bet any of those hands in the op?