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Old 12-28-2005, 10:49 PM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Default Re: um, QQ fold preflop?

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Think about your reraise here if you held AA.


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It certainly wouldn't be to 60% of the starting stack almost guaranteeing no action (unless someone has QQ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

If I had AA in the SB, I'd probably make it 250ish to go, not 600..

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Old 12-28-2005, 11:03 PM
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SB made it 400, no? You're right in that I would also bump it to about 250ish, but I can't really criticize someone for bumping it to 400 here either. After all, you know one of these donks will probably call (with QQ). ;-)
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:21 PM
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I push this so hard my wrist snaps on the way in from the speed of my push hes gonna show u jj or tt gl
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: um, QQ fold preflop?

thanks for the replies

i've been on an awesome run so i was doubting myself after pushing and having AA turned up on me.

meh, decked.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: um, QQ fold preflop?

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SB made it 400, no? You're right in that I would also bump it to about 250ish, but I can't really criticize someone for bumping it to 400 here either. After all, you know one of these donks will probably call (with QQ). ;-)

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For some reason I had it in my head that he raised to 600. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

It may be an inexperienced player with AA, but my range still stands making it a very quick push.

First level of a Super plays very donkish, and its best to get those easy chips before anyone else.

If he has me beat, he has me beat, I've seen far too many hands I dominate make this bet to think of laying this down.

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Old 12-29-2005, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: um, QQ fold preflop?

I fold here almost everytime. I call a push, but it'salmost always AA or KK going part way here. It's not a bunch of limpers being raised, it'san utg raise and a bunch of callers. I'd be shocked if a bluffer or AK didn't push here.

If I'm wrong I'm out 60 chips at a table with a bunch of players willing to mix it up and I like my chances of getting the chips anyway.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:22 PM
FishInAPhoneBooth FishInAPhoneBooth is offline
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I fold here almost everytime. I call a push, but it'salmost always AA or KK going part way here. It's not a bunch of limpers being raised, it'san utg raise and a bunch of callers. I'd be shocked if a bluffer or AK didn't push here.

If I'm wrong I'm out 60 chips at a table with a bunch of players willing to mix it up and I like my chances of getting the chips anyway.

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I am slightly confused by your reasoning. Is the issue you think this edge is to small to be pushed or do you feel you have no edge because of the action?
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:27 PM
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sorry, trying to wrap my head around this hand

bout the 4th hand of the tourney (super tuesday)

utg, QQ

raise to 60 (i know, shoulda been a lil more)

call (mp)
call (CO)
call (button)

sb makes it 400

bb folds

let's poll it

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was in similar situation the other day, almost folded QQ (this was a $11 buyin). UTG raised to 4 BB's, MP1 pushes allin and i'm in SB with QQ. Thought for about 30 seconds about folding, then i called and UTG called. I tripled up against 77 and 99.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:33 PM
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wait, you'd be SHOCKED if AK didn't push for like 8x the pot instead of a reraise?
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: um, QQ fold preflop?

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sorry, trying to wrap my head around this hand

bout the 4th hand of the tourney (super tuesday)

utg, QQ

raise to 60 (i know, shoulda been a lil more)

call (mp)
call (CO)
call (button)

sb makes it 400

bb folds

let's poll it

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was in similar situation the other day, almost folded QQ (this was a $11 buyin). UTG raised to 4 BB's, MP1 pushes allin and i'm in SB with QQ. Thought for about 30 seconds about folding, then i called and UTG called. I tripled up against 77 and 99.

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I personally think this is more likely scenario in the early stages than the one that OP ran into.

Push it.
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