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Old 05-31-2005, 05:52 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: My first hand eval: K/K on the button

against any sane opponent I much prefer calling the flop and raising either the turn or the river. probably the river.

an important consideration here is that if he is betting AK/JJ/TT, then we let him continue to do so. in addition, we lose the least to AA/QQ.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: My first hand eval: K/K on the button

I think I would play it the same way.

Nice hand.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:59 PM
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Capping hands are QQ KK AA, and *maybe* JJ and AK. I definitely don't see JJ or AK calling a cap and leading the turn. We're behind very often. I call after he leads the turn, and call a river, and let him show me his AA/QQ.

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I cap AK and JJ nearly every time.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:13 PM
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I am not folding this pot for a single bet on the river.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: My first hand eval: K/K on the button

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against any sane opponent I much prefer calling the flop and raising either the turn or the river. probably the river.

an important consideration here is that if he is betting AK/JJ/TT, then we let him continue to do so. in addition, we lose the least to AA/QQ.

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I agree with this. IMO, a Q high flop is one of the worst things you can see with KK and a capped preflop pot. OP's line results in TT/JJ/AK possibly finding a fold, and allows AA/QQ to repeatedly own him with bet after bet. This is the type of hand where you only get action if you're losing.

If I did raise the flop, I would not cap. If I did cap, there's no way I'd raise the turn after he leads again.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: My first hand eval: K/K on the button

Nice points miles, didn't think of it that way.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:45 PM
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Capping hands are QQ KK AA, and *maybe* JJ and AK. I definitely don't see JJ or AK calling a cap and leading the turn. We're behind very often. I call after he leads the turn, and call a river, and let him show me his AA/QQ.

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I cap AK and JJ nearly every time.

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People like you are few and far between =O.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: My first hand eval: K/K on the button

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+3 has Ad Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
marchron has Kd Kh (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: UTG+3 wins 17 BB. </font>
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:45 AM
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I knew that before even looking. Sucks, but that's poker sometimes.
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Old 06-01-2005, 03:41 AM
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against any sane opponent I much prefer calling the flop and raising either the turn or the river. probably the river.

an important consideration here is that if he is betting AK/JJ/TT, then we let him continue to do so. in addition, we lose the least to AA/QQ.

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yep
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