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Old 10-02-2005, 06:15 AM
AlphaWice AlphaWice is offline
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Default Is constantly pushing all in with any 2 and rebuying +EV? Explain?

I notice some good (even world class) players will push with any 2 and double rebuy every hand. How is this +EV? Can you explain?
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:17 AM
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they're better. its not every hand, most likely coinflips. the way they look at it is that all they're doing is giving donks chips and fattening the prize pool.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: Is constantly pushing all in with any 2 and rebuying +EV? Explain

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I notice some good (even world class) players will push with any 2 and double rebuy every hand. How is this +EV? Can you explain?

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They're gambling to get a big stack for after the rebuy period, it's obviously not +cEV, but they feel that they can outplay their opponents eonugh when they have a deep (like 100-400BB's) after the first hour cause theres lots of bad people still around.

I'm not convinced it's +ev.. but wild aggression (but not necesarily any two) definitely can be.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Is constantly pushing all in with any 2 and rebuying +EV? Explain?

they also do this to flood their table w/ a bunch of chips so after the rebuy they can take them back.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:50 AM
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they also do this to flood their table w/ a bunch of chips so after the rebuy they can take them back.

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and then they get shifted to a new table, and say really really bad words.
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Old 10-02-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Is constantly pushing all in with any 2 and rebuying +EV? Explain?

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they also do this to flood their table w/ a bunch of chips so after the rebuy they can take them back.

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and then they get shifted to a new table, and say really really bad words.

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you dont always get changed, pokerstars has a system just like other sites so you can tell if you're going to get moved a lot. I've played 1 table for 4-5 hours several times.
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Old 10-02-2005, 02:39 PM
FishInAPhoneBooth FishInAPhoneBooth is offline
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Default Re: Is constantly pushing all in with any 2 and rebuying +EV? Explain?

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they also do this to flood their table w/ a bunch of chips so after the rebuy they can take them back.

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and then they get shifted to a new table, and say really really bad words.

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you dont always get changed, pokerstars has a system just like other sites so you can tell if you're going to get moved a lot. I've played 1 table for 4-5 hours several times.

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How can you tell? I thought it was random.
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Old 10-02-2005, 02:41 PM
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yea i thought stars did it random too.... they dont work the tables down to the #1 table.. often the FT is like #170 or something stupid.
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Old 10-02-2005, 02:47 PM
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Another advantage is that nobody believes you when you have a good hand and they'll start getting into battles with you on cards they wouldn't normally bet on.. I don't have enough money to just push all the time, but I do remember a guy who pushed and rebought like 10+ times.. he eventually built his stack up pretty good, and when he had a real hand, people were calling him down with like 10-Q, KJ, 5-5 etc
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Old 10-02-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Is constantly pushing all in with any 2 and rebuying +EV? Explain

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they also do this to flood their table w/ a bunch of chips so after the rebuy they can take them back.

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and then they get shifted to a new table, and say really really bad words.

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you dont always get changed, pokerstars has a system just like other sites so you can tell if you're going to get moved a lot. I've played 1 table for 4-5 hours several times.

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How can you tell? I thought it was random.

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It's not random, but it's not predictable either. Tables balance whenever a multiple of 9 players remains (81, 450, etc.), so if you're table causes this to happen (82nd player knocked out, 451st, etc.) then you're table will be closed.
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