Routine Laydown?

[johnnybeef]

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14187127 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Saturday, July 23, 14:50:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 12059 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: Quagmire911 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: bentang2 ( $955 )
Seat 2: JGEORGE ( $385 )
Seat 9: ovandme ( $2745 )
Seat 4: hasinjo ( $2180 )
Seat 7: Johnny ( $1705 )
Seat 3: mercedes84 ( $875 )
Trny:14187127 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Johnny [ Ts 9d ]
ovandme folds.
JGEORGE folds.
mercedes84 calls [50].
hasinjo calls [50].
bentang2 folds.
Johnny calls [25].
Quagmire911 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Ac, Jc ]
Johnny checks.
Quagmire911 checks.
mercedes84 checks.
>You have options at Table 12002 Table!.
hasinjo bets [50].
Johnny calls [50].
Quagmire911 folds.
mercedes84 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
Johnny checks.
hasinjo bets [300].
Johnny raises [600].
hasinjo calls [300].
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
Johnny checks.
hasinjo is all-In [1480]

[tigerite]

This is most often than not a flush, so probably. But really I fold that crap preflop, even from the sb.

[skierdude1000]

Are you serious? If you want to lay this down, please msg me and we can play headsup. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Nahhhh cmon, you have a strait that is the nuts!

[Freudian]

You probably have to lay it down. Hate this situation because if you are wrong you are giving up a tonne of chips.

[johnnybeef]

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Are you serious? If you want to lay this down, please msg me and we can play headsup. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Nahhhh cmon, you have a strait that is the nuts!

[/ QUOTE ]

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[johnnybeef]

[ QUOTE ]
This is most often than not a flush, so probably. But really I fold that crap preflop, even from the sb.

[/ QUOTE ]

maybe for you, but i am hands down the best player at the table getting 7:1

[Hendricks433]

I think I'd lay it down. Why raise on the turn here? I just call the turn. You dont really have to worry about a free card cause if he has you then he already has the flush. Why mini raise? I think the raise on the turn is a horrible play personally. Also he has doubled his chips so how did he get them? it might give you some info to what his hand may be. The way you played it though I might lay this down. Depends on the feeling and reads. One more thought. Why would he push the river when you just raised his bet on the turn?

[microbet]

Unless I've seen some seriously crazy play from this guy it is a fold.

Flat calling your check/raise on the turn makes him seem awfully happy with his hand.

[SlackerMcFly]

Hmmm.... Maybe this is why I have a yo-yo for a bankroll. I auto-call this and go broke a lot, but win enough of these to keep me interested in playing the "ignorant side of the straight".

My guess is he has K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and is representing the flush that he missed. He called the check-raise because he had 3:1 odds to do so. Moving all-in to his t300 raise would have avoided the conundrum (if he missed his flush) or you would have been broke there instead of broke when you call his aggression.

He is buying the pot. I call. But I'm a noob. What did he have? SlackerMcBrokeToday

[durron597]

I would never raise this turn. I would call the turn bet and lead those 300 chips on the river. It's a much easier decision to fold if he pushes over the top of the 300 than you checking to him on the river.