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Old 05-17-2005, 12:04 AM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default The damn bubble again.

I have been getting my ass kicked at the 33s tonite and decisions like this are not helping.
Not sure what to do here. Eastbay's program said it is too close to have a clear winner. Player was tight and had never min rasied before. Weak hand or sneaky trap? Hero's play? Notice the stack sizes. With Eastbay's tool, TT is a clear fold and QQ is a clear push but JJ is right on the border line.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

BB (t890)
UTG (t1435)
Hero (t900)
SB (t4775)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

I would push and it wouldn't even be close.
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

Must be right to push.

GG
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

eek, i've posted 5 handed and I wasn't sure, but here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




if you fold this, eek
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Old 05-17-2005, 08:34 AM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

IC5, the minraise probably means he don't want to play mr bigstack. I'd say he has some crappy hand like 66s or AT.
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Old 05-17-2005, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

Interesting. TT is a clear fold?
I know i would have a hard time folding that..

What other reads did you have on the minraiser. What other raises had he been using so far(had he been pushing?)
I think this is usefull information if you should find out if it is a weak hand or a trap. A player that have been frequently pushing and then suddenly minraises is something to look out for..

What hand ranges have you used for the minraiser then when you used Eastbay's program?
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:11 AM
DeathbySuckout DeathbySuckout is offline
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

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Interesting. TT is a clear fold?


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Yes, this is because TT does not have any pretty pictures on it like JJ does, so it doesn't look as good when you flip it over in a push.

Just remember the 3 Ps of SnGs:
PUSH
PRETTY
PICTURES
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

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With Eastbay's tool, TT is a clear fold and QQ is a clear push but JJ is right on the border line.


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I've not used this tool, and far be it from me to question it....

Can someone please explain why TT is a clear fold?
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:28 AM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

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With Eastbay's tool, TT is a clear fold and QQ is a clear push but JJ is right on the border line.


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I've not used this tool, and far be it from me to question it....

Can someone please explain why TT is a clear fold?

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Cause on this forum it is cool to fold big hands.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:38 AM
Winwood Winwood is offline
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Default Re: The damn bubble again.

Gotcha.

No, but seriously...
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