For UK casino employees

[ASaintsFan]

Hi there,

I would like some info and advice. I am interested in working in a UK casino. Assuming there are a few of you guys out there who read these forums, can you tell me a bit what it is like? As a dealer, what sort of hours do you work, how much can you expect to start on, promotions/prospects, that sort of thing.

Also, is it possible to get a job in an assistant manager type role without table experience? Has anyone ever done this, and if so how difficult was it? If you are a manager, would you consider hiring someone with management, but not casino, experience?

I really appreciate any advice, I'm at a real decision point in my life and need all the help I can get

Thanks!

Steve

[daveymck]

I am not a dealer but I heard one talking at a poker tournie the other week, when asked he was on £28,000 a year I guess working a 40 hour week. He stated that was about average some where on more and the manager a bit more. As I understand it in UK casinos you are not allowed to tip the dealers but this is not from experience so cant say 100%.

It may not be a bad time to get experience in the Industry with the new laws going through parliment and mgm and others waiting to invest an alleged 8.5 billion to make a number of super casinos I guess the rates of pay and opportunities to move into management would increase.

May be worth posting this on the hendon mob forum as there are more uk people there who should know.

[cockandbull]

typically you spend your first six weeks attending training, for which you are paid around £17,500 (london wage). The training hours are 10am-6pm.

Most casinos have different shift patterns avaible, a normal working week would be 11pm-7am, 9pm-4am, 9pm-4am, 1pm-9pm, 1pm-9pm. Some other patterns avaible include a four day rota, which is basically four 9pm-7am, a three day week, three 13 hour shift, 4pm-5am.

With regards to coming straight into a management position, it doesnt really work like that, you have to have casino exp, but with some chains they offer a "fast track" to a management position. This is normally avaible to people with one year exp.

If you require any more info your more than welcome to pm me.

laters

harry

[ASaintsFan]

Davey,

You hit the nail on the head. The planned deregulation in the UK (and subsequest expansion of the industry) is exactly why I am interested in this. I currently have a dull job and my only real interest (apart from my partner, friends etc etc - you know important stuff) is playing poker and gambling in general. I would love to own my own casino one day - and I guess to do that you have to start at the ground floor.

So thanks for your info, and if possible, can you let me know the address of the hendon mob forum as I have never heard of it - please forgive my ignorance.

Cheers

[spamuell]

Hendon Mob Forum

[Cubswin]

If you are looking to work in a UK casino I assume you are a EU resident? Im not sure if your “Saints” name is for the New Orleans saints or some euro footie team. If you are arnt a EU resident I think your chances of landing a job in one of the new casinos is slim to none. The whole premise of the UK deregulation is economic revitalization in struggling areas so I don’t think too many jobs are going to be set aside for non-EU citizens.

cubs

[cockandbull]

i sure if he came over now he'd be fine, most casinos are really short staffed, even places like the ritz find it difficult to keep staff.

laters

harry

[ASaintsFan]

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[ASaintsFan]

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[daveymck]

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I think your chances of landing a job in one of the new casinos is slim to none. The whole premise of the UK deregulation is economic revitalization in struggling areas so I don’t think too many jobs are going to be set aside for non-EU citizens.

cubs

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The UK doesnt work like that, I think there will be a lot of opportunities particulary for US nationals with experience of working in these super casinos. Jobs may not be set aside but they will be filled by whoever. I suspect US people wanting to travel round europe, with casino experince would be able to use the UK as a base to work and travel in their spare time.

Working in London and it is spreading UK wide starting to see that most lesser paid jobs, shops, cleaners etc are being done by non UK citizens, I suspect a lot of jobs will be lower paid (cleaning, security etc) so will more likely be filled by non UK (possibly non EU) people.

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