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Old 12-29-2005, 09:36 PM
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You should be reraising a lot more then 2.5x preflop when its multiway, and you should definately be reraising. You want to play QQ HU not vs 5 players.

You need to bet more on the flop. 2/3rds is pretty good.

When he calls the flop and pushes the turn its VERY difficult to be ahead here. All you're really beating is someone donking with a 10 and maybe Ah10d or something like that, as well as bluffs.

You can feel relatively the same about KK and AA in this spot, I just dont think any one pair is good here too often. But if you got a instinctual read on it, call him or fold based on that.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: QQ line check - I\'m pretty sure I messed up somewhere!

Excellent.

Addressed every issue I had with the hand. The preflop amount and the flop bet, and turn call.


Thanks. I guess if I reraised preflop more I'd just push the flop due to my being pot committed.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:42 AM
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players c and d, after folding and then calling your raise, probably have small pocket pairs. player g folding preflop and then pushing the turn is troubling. But i think the real player to watch here is f, who folds preflop and on the flop, but then mysteriously has no turn or river action? that's one sneaky mother [censored]

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What are you drinking, and can I get some?
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:52 AM
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Don't you think he hit his flush on the turn which is why he pushed all in?
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:38 AM
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Don't you think he hit his flush on the turn which is why he pushed all in?

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hopefully he is folding the flush draw if you pot the flop as I advocate. If not ... pot odds *shrug* Just cause a scare card hits doesn't mean you gotta fold.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: QQ line check - I\'m pretty sure I messed up somewhere!

I check fold the flop as weak as it is
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:02 AM
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players c and d, after folding and then calling your raise, probably have small pocket pairs. player g folding preflop and then pushing the turn is troubling. But i think the real player to watch here is f, who folds preflop and on the flop, but then mysteriously has no turn or river action? that's one sneaky mother [censored]

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Old 12-30-2005, 04:25 AM
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I check fold the flop as weak as it is

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In addition, with four other players seeing that flop, and a couple of them probably going in w/ small or medium pairs, there's a pretty decent chance of walking into a set and 10% pot equity.
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