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Old 09-12-2005, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Set Against Loose Passive

No I'm sorry. Aggressiveness is (Bet% + raise%)/Call% and is not based on number of hands. Yes if someone plays a lot of hands you would expect them to do a lot of calling but I don't always see that being the case. I look at AF seperate from % hands played. I actually thought that people that play a large number of hands would have a higher AF just because of their nature.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:21 PM
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River: (10.50 BB) Q (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Had to call.

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Oh my god 3 bet the river already.

Just bet the flop, and go from there. I think I might have capped the first two streets, and if I bet the river and get raised, then, I 'might' call. If he has A2, good for him.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:21 PM
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I think you are exactly right. Thanks
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:25 PM
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Agrees. Aggression is not a problem for me and I think I am actually too aggressive. That's why I wanted to post this. Not that I was thinking that I was too aggressive here but maybe turned into a weak tight player.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:25 PM
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No I'm sorry. Aggressiveness is (Bet% + raise%)/Call% and is not based on number of hands. Yes if someone plays a lot of hands you would expect them to do a lot of calling but I don't always see that being the case. I look at AF seperate from % hands played. I actually thought that people that play a large number of hands would have a higher AF just because of their nature.

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You are wrong. If you are in 50% of your hands, you have to be raising a lot of weaker draws to get your AF up to 1.5. If I see someone with a VP of 50, with a AF of 1.5, I usually just make it up to like 2 or 2.25 or so.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Set Against Loose Passive

You have the definition perfect.

Now think about what that means for a 55% VP$IP, he is flopping crap a lot. So a lot of folding/calling, and
very little raising/betting, vs a standard tag, who is
doing a lot of betting/raising and little calling.

Did that make it any clearer?
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:31 PM
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Noted. I'll take this into account for now on. Thanks!!!
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:32 PM
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Sure, I'm just glad I could help.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Set Against Loose Passive

When Button responds to Hero's turn check/3-bet by calling and then popping the river, I do think he's acting like he has a very strong hand.

It looks to me like it's quite possible Hero wasn't the only one slowplaying on the flop.

76/A2 is 32 combos. There are also a greater number of larger sets available than smaller ones.

If Button has QT (9 combos), then that's great, and there are some other hands Hero is beating such as 54 (3 combos), 43 (3 combos), 53 (9 combos), T5s (2 combos), Q3s (2 combos), and so forth.

I like leading the flop (instead of check-calling) and proceeding from there. But Hero's river play seems all right to me.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:45 PM
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It looks to me like it's quite possible Hero wasn't the only one slowplaying on the flop.



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Boy did you get that right.
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