100 NL 6max vs. 50 NL 6max

[timmah27]

Sorry if this has been covered in other posts but nothing came up under the search function.

I'm contemplating moving up 4 tabling the 50nl 6max to the 100nl 6max. Currently over 10k hands i'm beating the 50nl for about 9ptbb/100. The 50nl seems pretty basic and really ABC poker seems to make a good deal of money. What are the main differences between the 50 and 100? In my limited experience with the 100 the only difference i see is an increased prevalence of wanna be LAGs. I'm properly bankrolled for both games so tell me some reasons why I should move up.

[Malachii]

In my experience $50 NL is much easier. $100NL 6max is tighter and finding good games can be tough. $50 NL 6max players are very easy to bully.

I agree with the above. I took a few shots at 100NL and did really well, so I moved up for a while. I took a turn for the worse at about 3000 hands. I found myself getting caught trying to buy pots and not being able to get away from big hands, so I tilted away a lot of money. I started to be one of those guys that I love to play against. Another huge factor is that the 100NL players don't seem to pay you off nearly as much on your big hands. That was the problem, I was losing a lot on my second best hands, and not winning much on my best hands.

Bottom line, 100NL is worth a shot, but you're going to have to play consistent good poker. When I moved up, I was beating 50NL for ~15PTBB/100 over about 10K hands, FWIW. Be ready and willing to admit to yourself that you might be out of your league and maybe you have more to learn still. That was the tough part for me, because I overvalued my short-term initial results.

[timmah27]

In my limited experience at the 100NL i noticed that i get paid off more on hands like top pair top kicker, especially if i've been playing pretty aggressive at the table for a while. Guys seem to look you more with middle pair than they would at 50NL. At 50 though it seems like people will go broke with top pair and medium to good kicker. Its like they can't fathom that two pair, a set, or an overpair are possible. Didn't really see this same chip spewage at 100NL.

[rachelwxm]

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In my limited experience with the 100 the only difference i see is an increased prevalence of wanna be LAGs.

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That must be me you saw. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

If you play TAG, you can beat 100 as well except that you might win more at 50s. For example if you win 9ptbb at 50s, I am not surprised if you could only win 5ptbb at 100s simply because people don't pay you off like 50s. Also I find there is more raising pf at 100s as well. When I first play 100NL, I am running at VPIP like 13/2. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[Sephus]

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For example if you win 9ptbb at 50s, I am not surprised if you could only win 5ptbb at 100s simply because people don't pay you off like 50s.

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does anyone else think this is just plain wrong? i would be VERY surprised if someone won 9BB/100 for 50k hands at NL50 and then won 5BB/100 for another 50k at NL100 while playing "just as well."

[rachelwxm]

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For example if you win 9ptbb at 50s, I am not surprised if you could only win 5ptbb at 100s simply because people don't pay you off like 50s.

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does anyone else think this is just plain wrong? i would be VERY surprised if someone won 9BB/100 for 50k hands at NL50 and then won 5BB/100 for another 50k at NL100 while playing "just as well."

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Just base on my observation that while alot of people could sustain winrate >10ptbb/100 at 50 level, not a lot of people could do so at 100 Level.

Also I did not take into account that you gain exp after 50k hands.

I could be off here.

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For example if you win 9ptbb at 50s, I am not surprised if you could only win 5ptbb at 100s simply because people don't pay you off like 50s.

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does anyone else think this is just plain wrong? i would be VERY surprised if someone won 9BB/100 for 50k hands at NL50 and then won 5BB/100 for another 50k at NL100 while playing "just as well."

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I found the 100NL to be just about the same as 50NL. If fact, my winrate increased a little (i know small sample--shut it!).

Even if the players to play slightly better, which I do not think they do, the amount of experience you gain from 10-20K hands that you might play at 50NL should at least level the playing field.

[Isura]

Try playing less tables. The 100nl is not hard, you just need to pay more attention and take better notes.

[4_2_it]

Just do what our jedi master Fimbulwinter says here.......