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Old 02-17-2005, 05:08 AM
Akimka Akimka is offline
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Default 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

SB is fishy/laggy. VPIP 55 PFR 5. 58 hands
BB is fishy too. VPIP 47, PFR 4.76. 21 hands

Any reason to give up on river? How do you like this hand?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (15 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 27 BB
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:10 AM
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

no river raise?
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:14 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

The odds of you winning that river have to be about as close to zero as it gets... and I'm always advocating calling a bet(s) on the river in big pots.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

Your river play leaves something to be desired imo. I would fold for 2 more.

Brad
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:45 AM
Akimka Akimka is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

Isn't here does not applies what Ed Miller saying about big pots and so on? I was calling only because of pot is very big... But for now i don't think it's good.

Well... About this call - can you name is borderline decision or bad mistake?
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:48 AM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

C'mon man, this is an easy fold after the SB's check-raise. This is a very basic hand read.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

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C'mon man, this is an easy fold after the SB's check-raise. This is a very basic hand read.

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good stuff. damn 2+2 is making me way too agro. Clear call/fold for 2 more
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:48 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

To quote Mr. Miller on playing large pots on p. 148 of SSH:

"Call liberally for one bet (my emphasis) on the river, even when you are almost sure that you are beaten."
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair (AKo) is on cross-fire - any reason to give up?

You win this hand approximately 0.000000001% of the time when villian check-raises like this. Definitely not worth throwing $4 at it.
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