(22) Fold QQ pre flop?

golfcchs · #1 12-10-2005, 02:37 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t240)
SB (t960)
BB (t1135)
UTG (t1690)
MP1 (t2010)
MP2 (t730)
Hero (t1235)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t60, MP1 raises to t400, 1 folds,Hero raises allin t12350, Button calls, 3 folds, MP1 calls t835.

Really thought hard about folding here since MP1 had been somewhat tight for a 22's (though had small sample size) and more importantly because I did not want to risk my 1200 stack level 2. Also I dont think I have any FE against MP1 on a push because his reraise size says I dont want action, but I am committed to this hand. Do you fold here or push?

Flop: (t1340) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Turn: (t1340) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: (t1340) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: t1340

Results in white below: 
MP1 has Js Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
Hero has Qs Qd (three of a kind, queens).
Button has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins t1340.

#2 12-10-2005, 02:51 PM

I think I would have played it the same. I wouldn't expect a t400 reraise from AA nor KK; more on the lines of a minraise to 275. It sort of smells like 99, TT, JJ, AK. Now if you were the button with this exact action in front of you with QQ (minraise, t400 re-raise, All-in re-raise, then you with QQ) I would seriously consider folding, but even then it would be an agonizing fold.

1C5 · #3 12-10-2005, 02:53 PM

Easy push. MP1 won't be raising to 400 with KK/AA very often.

Unlucky that button had KK behind you but you solved that problem by rivering a queen.Good play by you.

I play the same way but most likely don't river the Q.

#4 12-10-2005, 02:54 PM

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I think I would have played it the same. I wouldn't expect a t400 reraise from AA nor KK; more on the lines of a minraise to 275. It sort of smells like 99, TT, JJ, AK. Now if you were the button with this exact action in front of you with QQ (minraise, t400 re-raise, All-in re-raise, then you with QQ) I would seriously consider folding, but even then it would be an agonizing fold.

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I agree, and that's alot of chips you pushed there golf. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Melchiades · #5 12-10-2005, 02:55 PM

That 400 raise screams of someone who doesn't want to play a flop. Easy push. Does not in any way look like AA/KK.