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Old 12-17-2005, 04:43 AM
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Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: bottomset is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, bottomset calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
bottomset checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, bottomset calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
bottomset checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, bottomset calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>

good, bad, horrible??

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If you think you can push villain off an A with a flop c/r, turn bet combo, then I'd go with that. River donk is good.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:44 AM
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IMO pf = fps vs. jaxup. In position you give up way too much equity to be fooling around.

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jaxup reads hands well, and is fairly hard to extract from, I think deception is worth a fair bit here, especially since he totally expects me to be 3betting most aces

it definetly got me an extra couple of BBs this time
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:45 AM
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another hand against jaxup

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: bottomset is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>

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I really hate you for this hand. On an uncoordinated flop call, you need to think about a turn check. I'd expect to get c/r'ed a significant amount of the time.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:45 AM
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You're a luckbox btw.



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not this month
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: 2+2 serious game .5/1 party

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IMO pf = fps vs. jaxup. In position you give up way too much equity to be fooling around.

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jaxup reads hands well, and is fairly hard to extract from, I think deception is worth a fair bit here, especially since he totally expects me to be 3betting most aces

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That's the thing - you're 3-betting alot of hands here and jaxup isn't going to give you credit for a decent one yet. I don't think that there's even that much deception value unless you happen to flop trip aces.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:48 AM
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i agree completely with bottomset here. underplaying AK/AQ preflop is really good against tags. watch the pwnage.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Results:
Hero has As Kd (three of a kind, aces).
CO has Ah 7c (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 17.75 BB.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: 2+2 serious game .5/1 party

again vs jaxup

flop peel good?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: bottomset is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, bottomset calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, bottomset calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, bottomset checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, bottomset checks.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: 2+2 serious game .5/1 party

as long as he could 3-bet some stuff that you'd have 6 outs or the best hand against (QJs, A9/A8/A7/A6/A5, low pairs), i think it is fine.
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:04 AM
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good flop raise?
turn bet?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: bottomset is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, bottomset checks.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: 2+2 serious game .5/1 party

I think the flop call is good with you backdoor draws and your ace overcard. Is betting the turn bad?
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