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Old 10-18-2005, 10:27 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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I don't think I'm good/tight enough to throw this away yet, but I guess it is nice to know that people are playing VERY tight and still winning.

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There's no good reason I can see for throwing AT away, on the button, with one previous limper from the CO, of all places.

It's not a leak to play this hand, although in a STT I wouldn't raise it with your chip stack and the blinds 25/50.

However, I do think it's a leak to muck here. It's way too tight. Too many players round here trying to forge a diamond in their colon.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:29 PM
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What's this fold preflop business? He's on the button, ya bunch of tight a**es.

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Ok, you're right, I wasn't looking at position, duh. I would limp once in a while to mix it up, but not raise. Limping and folding are about equal in my book, but I hate raising. By raising you're asking to play a big pot... with AT. Eww.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:32 PM
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What's this fold preflop business? He's on the button, ya bunch of tight a**es.

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Ok, you're right, I wasn't looking at position, duh. I would limp once in a while to mix it up, but not raise. Limping and folding are about equal in my book, but I hate raising. By raising you're asking to play a big pot... with AT. Eww.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree, but in an MTT, I'm raising this 3/4 of the time. Maybe more.
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Old 10-19-2005, 02:26 AM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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full_house83 raises [180].

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why?

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I read the table as tight and the limper has gotten off a limp twice befre that I have noticed. I figure his cold call is a smaller-suited A. I think his bet on the flop help confirm my read.

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OK. So you want to isolate a weak limper. That not a bad plan. This may not be popular, but if you're going to isolation-raise, just push. If you think he'll limp-call with an ace and worse than ten (and also not too worried he's limp AJ, AQ, TT, or JJ), you don't want him missing the flop and folding when you're a 3:1 favorite preflop.

I really dislike playing raised pots with marginal hands postflop. It's just asking to make a huge mistake. Pushing preflop may be a small mistake, but it's always going to be the last one you make in a hand.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:12 AM
runner4life7 runner4life7 is offline
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Default Re: $55 AT hand...

I fold this, its not even suited, yuck.

I am not putting in 1/4 of my stack on a raise with AT, maybe I'm too tight, but I can get chips with better spots earlier/later in the game.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:12 AM
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I would maybe limp here. But putting a player on a Weak Ace cause he limped in is a horrible leak IMO. You put your opponents on a range of hands and narrow it down as the hand progresses.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:16 AM
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I fold this, its not even suited, yuck.

I am not putting in 1/4 of my stack on a raise with AT, maybe I'm too tight, but I can get chips with better spots earlier/later in the game.

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What he said.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:04 AM
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Easy preflop fold for me.
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Old 10-19-2005, 08:31 AM
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HEY BIG, why in a MTT?
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:50 AM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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can you please explain why this is a raise in a MTT and not a STT? Thanks
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