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Old 01-22-2005, 05:39 PM
aLOWdAkING aLOWdAkING is offline
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Default JJ against two overcard flop

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Im multitabling trying to clear the reload, so no reads.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

Maybe I'm a tighty but I'm letting this go.
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

Hero folds.
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

if UTG+1 has KK, AK, AA he would of raise preflop

is it better for Hero to Reraise
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

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Hero folds.

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Old 01-22-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

Villain doesn't need AA, KK, etc. -- he just needs a single A or a K and he's ahead of Hero (who is now drawing to 2 outs).

I don't think I'm a tighty, and I hate losing my big pocket pairs like this on the flop, but I don't see how Hero can stick around here. Gotta just cuss and fold.
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

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if UTG+1 has KK, AK, AA he would of raise preflop

is it better for Hero to Reraise

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There are a lot more hands then just those that Hero is behind here.

KJ, KTs, ATo, Axs..... alot.

KO
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

Exactly.

It's a small pot, heads up, and MP1 is betting into the pf raiser.

FOLD.
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:16 PM
Jasmien Jasmien is offline
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

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if UTG+1 has KK, AK, AA he would of raise preflop

is it better for Hero to Reraise

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good but even against K2o were drawing to two outs.

eaaaasy fold
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: JJ against two overcard flop

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if UTG+1 has KK, AK, AA he would of raise preflop

is it better for Hero to Reraise

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I might raise if I had a read on villain to make me think he will fold, but not without. Especially if he is making this bet with a king you have some chance of taking the pot with a raise, but because the pot is so small you have to think it will work about 1/3 of the time. Your mileage may vary with the raising play; folding is surer and safer.
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