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Old 11-26-2005, 01:55 AM
aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline
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Default Re: yo cossio wtf?

Well when you phrase it as "100% of the time" it makes it sound more unreasonable than it is. I do *always* raise aces in this situation and I'd venture to say that a lot of us are. I don't think of it as a really close decision. I could be wrong- I haven't done a lot of calculations and I have never even tried limping there.

Do you randomize your play for almost all decisions? In an online tournament with a large field I would hate to give up any expectation at all for an intangible metagame benefit. On the other hand Jeff and I did see your play and it is very likely you will be involved in hands with one of us in another stars tournament. I suppose you are more likely to be recognized and remembered than most of us.

I'm curious about other hands that you randomize. Would you ever limp ako here? Is there a 1% chance you raise 72o? (not entirely serious). Can you give some other examples? How did you decide to limp aces 10-15% of the time as opposed to 5% or 20%?
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: yo cossio wtf?

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Would you ever limp ako here?

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I have a friend ( a very smart, good poker player ) that is all about limping AK early in tournaments.

I don't really know his argument, so maybe it was pointless that i mentioned it, but basically he says you drive out lots of hands that you have dominated, that will donate lots of chips when they hit a bad top pair vs yours. But anyyway.

I dont think limping AA here occasionally is all that bad, like i said i don't do it, and at a standard table it wouldn't be optimal, but as i said earlier these 150's can play absurdly tight preflop, so letting them catch a little piece on the flop doesn't seem bad
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:52 AM
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I sometimes limp w/ AKs. Early position especially and early in tournaments.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: yo cossio wtf?

I understand what Sirio is saying. I would almost never limp Aces there because I rarely open limp at all in that spot. If I open limped more frequently, I would mix in a much higher ratio of "randomizaton" limps with AA.
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: yo cossio wtf?

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I do *always* raise aces in this situation and I'd venture to say that a lot of us are. I don't think of it as a really close decision. I could be wrong- I haven't done a lot of calculations and I have never even tried limping there.


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You may be right, at least guys like Chris Ferguson and the like think you must raise 100% of the time.

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Do you randomize your play for almost all decisions?

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I randomize just 93.54% of the time [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Seriously, I just make unorthodox plays from time to time trying to make myself less predictable. But of course they are still plays with +EV; I'm not calling big all ins with T2 just to appear unorthodox.

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Would you ever limp ako here? Is there a 1% chance you raise 72o?

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Oh yes, I sometimes limp with AK, AQ and give a chance to the blinds to play their A6 or K3.

72o is more like 0.45% of the time. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:51 AM
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Not a big fan of the limp. I just can't slowplay/limp with QQ+. Especially that early. The flop and turn needs to be bet harder. The only time I tried to get tricky with AA's live was at the WSOP in the 2kNLHE. Called two miniraises with AA cold on the CO and guy flopped a set. I sucked out on the river and said I will never do that again.
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