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Old 08-28-2005, 12:48 AM
imported_anacardo imported_anacardo is offline
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Default Open trips, raised pot.

Open trips - another raised-pot situation that doesn't exactly thrill me.

MP1 is loose and fairly aggressive. MP3 is fairly loose and passive.

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UTG+2 ($94.30)
MP1 ($74.49)
Hero ($124.55)
MP3 ($61.65)
CO ($61.15)
Button ($124.90)
SB ($139)
BB ($100)
UTG ($106.45)
UTG+1 ($93)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $4.50, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $15</font>, MP1 calls $15...

Hero?

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Old 08-28-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

I don't limp preflop. I fold to the raise. I'd either call or raise a small amount and lock them both in for more money. This might suck, though.
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Old 08-28-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

make it 40$. you know MP1 is fairly loose aggressive, and you know MP3 (the leader into the flop) is loose passive.

i put MP3 on an overpair with MP1 (depending on his action on your 40$ bet) a weaker 10, 55, or a mid pair.
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:07 AM
imported_anacardo imported_anacardo is offline
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

I think it goes without saying that a raise here would commit me to the hand, which given my third nuts and the pot would be just delightful.
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

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Open trips - another raised-pot situation that doesn't exactly thrill me.

MP1 is loose and fairly aggressive. MP3 is fairly loose and passive.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 ($94.30)
MP1 ($74.49)
Hero ($124.55)
MP3 ($61.65)
CO ($61.15)
Button ($124.90)
SB ($139)
BB ($100)
UTG ($106.45)
UTG+1 ($93)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $4.50, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $15</font>, MP1 calls $15...

Hero?

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You already know what a poor call of the preflop raise you made with a marginal hand.

That said, on the flop I would use the dreaded min-raise to try to get both to come along. Each player has already committed $20.50 at this point so the min-raise from you should lock both in for their entire stacks. Either they'll both call and you can re-evaluate the best way to get both of their stacks depending on the turn. Or, hopefully, MP1 will push and you'll obviously call and hopefully MP3 will feel compelled to come along.

If this line sucks, somebody please correct me.
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

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I think it goes without saying that a raise here would commit me to the hand, which given my third nuts and the pot would be just delightful.

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then your question is.......?
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

I'unno. What do you think? Should I have led into the PFR? That's generally the pick to click, but I feel like the hand I'm representing is just obvious. Check/raise allows me to at least take his initial PSB, and he might not be able to get away when so committed to the pot. What do people think of that call from MP1? What could that possibly mean? Is he calling a raise with anything I beat? Should I care? Just thinkin'.
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

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I'unno. What do you think? Should I have led into the PFR? That's generally the pick to click, but I feel like the hand I'm representing is just obvious. Check/raise allows me to at least take his initial PSB, and he might not be able to get away when so committed to the pot. What do people think of that call from MP1? What could that possibly mean? Is he calling a raise with anything I beat? Should I care? Just thinkin'.

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na ur line is good.
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Old 08-28-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

What line?
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Old 08-28-2005, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Open trips, raised pot.

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What line?

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I think he assumes the obvious: I raised to $50, MP3 folded, MP1 pushed for his remainder, I called, was shown 55 and failed to improve. Does it matter? I guess not.
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