Hellmuthian Laydown Contemplated

[tiger_style]

the flop, although itd probably really be the turn, its just silly to call the min raise with the button possibly holding dominating outs...which is another good reason to not push

so i tried another line on this other hand...:-)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($391)
UTG ($749.7)
Hero ($386.6)
CO ($369.5)
Button ($181.6)
SB ($206.4)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, Hero calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $16, CO folds, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($68) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20, SB folds.

River: ($108) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $208

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8s Ts (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $208. </font>

[Big_Jim]

I'm shocked you didn't get called on this hand. Looks like a whiffed draw.

Villian probably had a weak 9, or a better flush draw.

nh, though

[Michael Jensen]

put him on a better fd on the turn actually

[cero_z]

Hi tiger style,

What's the problem here? You played it g00t.

[cero_z]

Hi SpineyFish,

[ QUOTE ]
How about a min-three-bet? He's confusing you with his min-raises. Give him a taste of his own medicine. If he pushes back you can lay down knowing you're beat.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think we can assume he's beat already; 9-high just ain't what it used to be in a multi-way pot.

Seriously, maybe you misread the post--Hero has 11 to 15 clean outs against a made hand. With 2 cards to come and the dead money in the pot, not getting all-in on the flop is passing up a decent amount of +EV. Heads up, you might call, since you could make a lot if you hit your flush, and you will make a lot if you hit your straight, but with the 3rd guy in there possibly drawing to the nut flush, you must raise him out. Only trouble is if he figures you're both getting all-in, and likes 2+ to 1 on his money.

But no matter what, he can't lay down his hand if he min-raises and the probable set pushes.