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Old 04-20-2005, 08:35 AM
TRBNGR TRBNGR is offline
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Default Re: A conjecture for discussion

I think SpeakEasy is refering to the phyiscal mechanics of betting and is likely correct in my humble opinion. To clarify I think my original statement needs to define an 'action' better, e.g. call bet/raise fold.
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: A conjecture for discussion

I think Gus Hanson does a good job of this as well. If you watch he'll count out the chips the same way most of the time and take about the same amount of time.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:37 AM
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I think this is very situational.

In a tough game, I think it's usually optimal to mix-up your play.
In a weak game, I think it's usually sub-optimal to mix-up your play.

Within either game, I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions.
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: A conjecture for discussion

If you mean that *all* actions are the same every time, of course it's suboptimal. If you mean that *any* action is the same every time, it's not necessarily suboptimal. (Folding to an all-in bet when you hold the only hand which plays the board, for example.)
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: A conjecture for discussion

Statements that contain the terms "always" or "never" are very rarely true.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Its NOT always suboptimal to play consistently...

There are plenty of opponents that are so unobservant that mixing up your play is unnecessasary.

There are many times that betting strong hands and folding unstrong hands is optimal.
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Old 04-22-2005, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: A conjecture for discussion

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Statements that contain the terms "always" or "never" are very rarely true.

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Therefore, your statement is rarely true, but then ......
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:18 AM
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NLHE, blinds $100/200. your stack is at $200 which is the max buy.

ten handed, you are dealt 23o UTG. there is only one correct move here and it is correct every time.

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Old 04-22-2005, 08:58 AM
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This statement is both obviously true, and so general as to be useless. Sorry.

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This statement is so obviously false, its disgraceful.
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Old 04-22-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Its NOT always suboptimal to play consistently...

Adding the word NOT before always greatly increases the chanses that a statement is true.
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