Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > General Poker Discussion > Poker Theory
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-15-2005, 09:30 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Losing money when in blinds

According to my stats I am losing way too much money when in blinds. Of course; I play hands that belongs to the muck if it wasn't for the forced bet, but... I figure there is more to it.
I recently begun analyzing my statistics, and this lookes like one leak that needs attantion.

So, to my question. What is the most common mistake playing in the blinds? Folding to easy when faced a raise, or defending the blind against possible steal attempts?

Any comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-15-2005, 09:40 PM
damaniac damaniac is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Not stopping running QB\'s
Posts: 60
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

How much is too much? You will lose money in both blinds: the key is to keep it to a minimum. As a result of the discounted price you get to enter, you do get to play a lot more hands even to a raise. But a lot of them are going to be tricky to play in a lot of postflop situations, especially against steals.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-16-2005, 12:06 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

Pretty common i'm sure, my strategy is basically to play only hands I would play anyways. The exception to this is if i'm in the BB and can see the flop for free (of course), or if I'm getting 5/1 on my money with a good hand or 7/1 with just about any decent hole cards. I get my blinds stolen a lot, but when people stab at my BB and i'm holding AQ i usually sieze a decently sized pot. I'd be interesting to see, but i think in the long run i might actually be making money in my blinds. Of course this is at 1/2 limit, people are smarter at the higher limits.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-16-2005, 12:44 AM
jba jba is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 672
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

[ QUOTE ]
but i think in the long run i might actually be making money in my blinds.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow, I would be genuinely impressed

(assuming you could prove it but would lay 10-1 you couldn't)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-16-2005, 12:46 AM
lozen lozen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 125
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

Agreed No one makes money with there blinds. Once its in the blind its gone, not yours, goodbye
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-16-2005, 01:20 AM
ConsciousOne ConsciousOne is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 16
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

Sorry to post this in here, but i play on partypoker, is there a good program i could get to keep track of my stats?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-16-2005, 02:43 AM
Xhad Xhad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 205
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
but i think in the long run i might actually be making money in my blinds.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow, I would be genuinely impressed

(assuming you could prove it but would lay 10-1 you couldn't)

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd lay a lot more than that considering that anyone who could make money from the blinds should be able to open-limp every unraised pot and still be a winning player.

@the question about poker stats: www.pokertracker.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-16-2005, 09:55 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

Thanks for your replies.

I guess I have a too hard time folding BB to what I believe is a steal-attempt. And as I think every OTB-raise is a shot for my blind I'm ending up playing too much junkhands.

The pattern is cristal clear. Fold to the button who raise, SB folds and I call with BB to protect it from future steal-attempts. Flop comes, I check, button bet and I fold...

I know that the button will raise with just about any two cards if not raised before. Maybe a re-raise from BB would be more profitable...

I may try to fold some more crappy hands and see where it takes me. I will continue to lose money from the blinds - but maybe not as much as I do now.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-16-2005, 04:29 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 276
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

In the blinds you

1. Have terrible position
2. Usually have terrible cards

Good luck not losing alot of money.

(PT can keep track of how much you are making in the blinds, MINUS the blind posts, that should be profitable, but the position(s) as a whole are terribly unprofitable)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-17-2005, 04:39 PM
AlanBostick AlanBostick is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: California
Posts: 127
Default Re: Losing money when in blinds

[ QUOTE ]
So, to my question. What is the most common mistake playing in the blinds? Folding to easy when faced a raise, or defending the blind against possible steal attempts?

[/ QUOTE ]

Use a bit of common sense. Most players are losing players. What is the typical player -- not a good player, but a typical one -- likely to do in the blinds when facing a raise?

Bad players play too many hands and call too many raises. The effect on your win rate of playing a few extra hands that you shouldn't can be significant, especially compared to the effect of not playing a hand that maybe you should. Not knowing how you play, and knowing far less than I think I ought about the theory of playing my blinds, I'd say that chances are very, very good that your losses in the blinds will go down if you tighten up on your starting hand requirements in the blinds when you face a raise.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.