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Old 04-27-2005, 04:28 AM
JoeAbrams JoeAbrams is offline
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Default KQo out of position against a raise

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t1340)
CO (t1590)
Button (t1580)
Hero (t1700)
BB (t1730)
UTG (t1340)
UTG+1 (t1100)
MP1 (t1520)
MP2 (t1600)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t105, BB calls t90.

Flop: (t360) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t360</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls t240.

Turn: (t1080) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t420</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1500

Stupid stupid stupid..
Obviously the way I played this hand is horrible.
When thinking about it, I think a better line would of been to smooth call flop and then lead out on the turn on anything but an Ace.

An even better line is to fold preflop ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What do you think?
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:30 AM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: KQo out of position against a raise

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An even better line is to fold preflop ?

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Yes. Absolutely. Without question.
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: KQo out of position against a raise

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An even better line is to fold preflop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 04-27-2005, 05:23 AM
mike28 mike28 is offline
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Default Re: KQo out of position against a raise

1. KQo
2. Out of position
3. Raised pot

I think this question answers itself
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Homer315 Homer315 is offline
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Default Re: KQo out of position against a raise

Yeah, definitely fold this preflop. But did you think you were beat here? The only four hands that beat you are what, AA, KK, AK, and 10-10? If I were the villian, your raise looks to me like an attempt to steal that failed, and that's why you checked the turn. He might also have put you on a smaller PP. Once you make the pre-flop call, I think you are good pretty damn often in this spot.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:41 AM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: KQo out of position against a raise

1. Fold preflop, unless you enjoy never being sure if your kicker is good.

If you are going to checkraise on the flop, I don't understand checking the turn at all.
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