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Old 08-17-2004, 01:31 PM
mikelow mikelow is offline
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Default Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

Playing in the Bellagio 60-120 game for the first time, I get K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in a middle postion. EP raises and I call (??). One cold caller (button) and BB calls also.

Flop is:

J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

BB checks, EP bets (he is steaming right now), and I raise.
BB comes to life with a check-threebet. EP and I call. Three of us for the turn which is:

[J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

BB bets, steamer calls and I call. Comments?
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

I stopped looking after EP raises and I call with KJo? Bad play. How do you think that is good poker?
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

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Playing in the Bellagio 60-120 game for the first time, I get K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in a middle postion. EP raises and I call (??).

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Been taking strategy lessons from Mike Caro?
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:46 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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Default Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

Nice!
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:47 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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Default Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

You must not like money for playing that hand preflop, but I gather you already know that. That said, you should just get to show down and pray that it's good.
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

As has been said, muck preflop. So what does everyone have? Do you think the EP steamer will call 2 more with TT or AK, otherwise, you are beat badly. He doesnt have to worry about 2 pair from you or the BB, and neither of you have a club, draw, so what does he have to lose by just calling with a hand like KK or AA(though if he is tilting, he would probably cap the flop). If I had a decent hand there, I would let you two knock yourselves out with few outs or a club draw which youre not going to fold. That being said, I think you have the BB, as he is probably raising on a worse jack, or putting pressure with a club draw + overcard. I dont know about the steamer though. Dont like to call, dont like to fold, usually winds up with me calling and praying.
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:59 PM
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Bored?
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:14 PM
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I get K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in a middle postion. EP raises and I call (??).

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I'm scared. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:22 PM
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Playing in the Bellagio 60-120 game for the first time,

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This didn't happen to be the 60/120 game on friday evening was it? If so my friend was playing it in with you. He was in the 9 seat next to the super good asian woman whom he said was probably the best limit player he'd played with.

I heard a couple calls for 40/80 stud for a mike L and looked around to see who it was but didn't see anyone react.
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand

KJo is crap to an EP raise. Actually KJo is crap facing most raises, with the exception of a blind steal.

I don't fault how you played after the flop, but realistically, you shouldn't have been there in the first place.

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