$10-25 NL - two pair facing a lot of resistance

I agree, it's a tough laydown, but, if you're sure the man has a set, you almost have to. There are just too many ways you're beaten. Although the most common winning hand in no-limit is two pair (I think I read that in Phil Gordon's book) you can't fall in love with it just like you can't fall in love with aces if you feel they're beat, you played the hand well, now it's time to surrender it.

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Although the most common winning hand in no-limit is two pair (I think I read that in Phil Gordon's book) you can't fall in love with it just like you can't fall in love with aces if you feel they're beat, you played the hand well, now it's time to surrender it.

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Maybe you realize it, but this is flawed reasoning. Two pair may be the most common winning hand over a large number of hold'em hands (probably based on all 10 players staying to the river?), but it doesn't take into account the board texture and the actions of the other players. You can't just think "oh I have two pair, I'm all-in".

I can't understand why someone with so many outs would go all in on the flop. Why not just call the raise and extract more money when you make your flush/straight/straight flush? I mean, OP is obviously aggressive. Make the hand then give him an opportunity to fire again.

[bugstud]

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I can't understand why someone with so many outs would go all in on the flop. Why not just call the raise and extract more money when you make your flush/straight/straight flush? I mean, OP is obviously aggressive. Make the hand then give him an opportunity to fire again.

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because some people will lay down top 2 or a set.

[Mikey]

i suck. :-(

[creedofhubris]

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I can't understand why someone with so many outs would go all in on the flop. Why not just call the raise and extract more money when you make your flush/straight/straight flush? I mean, OP is obviously aggressive. Make the hand then give him an opportunity to fire again.

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Besides getting decent made hands to fold -- there were several other callers, your flush draw is not to the nuts, you really don't want to be up against another flush draw, and a reraise will shake them out.

[Lucky]

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I can't understand why someone with so many outs would go all in on the flop. Why not just call the raise and extract more money when you make your flush/straight/straight flush? I mean, OP is obviously aggressive. Make the hand then give him an opportunity to fire again.


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He's got a huge draw on flop; its much less huge when he misses turn and opponent sets him all in.

[snappo]

why such a weak flop raise? that's a tad under half-pot raise. 800 would be psr.

The opponent is a good tricky player, one of the better players at the table.

Since we hold a 9 and a 7, are we really going to fear a set that much? This is a good time to NOT fear a set so much. If the opponent is a nut-peddling rock, then this is a clear muck... but he is a tricky good player AND you hold key cards for his possible combinations. You hit this flop hard... mucking top 2 on flop vs a tricky good player is a pretty timid play...

Admittedly, I play something less than a deep stack to make this decision easier and when it gets deep, my weak-tight play clearly increases... But the right play is to get it in and rebuy if he shows 33. I am not mucking top 2 on the flop vs a non-rock. Top pair, I muck... Top 2, get it in.

[Ulysses]

As many said, this is an easy call.