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Old 12-28-2005, 02:09 AM
elcheapo elcheapo is offline
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Default I think this is right but scuba disagrees

Game No : 3272946676
***** Hand History for Game 3272946676 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18664529 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Wednesday, December 28, 00:51:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 68111 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: elcheapo23 ( $1617 )
Seat 3: hueys46 ( $4540 )
Seat 5: wnlake5 ( $930 )
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck ( $913 )
Trny:18664529 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elcheapo23 [ Kh 3d ]
>You have options at Table 66918 Table!.
hueys46 folds.
wnlake5 folds.
Scuba_Chuck is all-In [813]
elcheapo23 calls [713].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Jd, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
Scuba_Chuck shows [ Ts, Td ] a full house, Tens full of jacks.
elcheapo23 shows [ Kh, 3d ] a pair of jacks.
Scuba_Chuck wins 1826 chips from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of jacks.
>You have options at Table 66918 Table!.
Game #3272948674 starts.

713 to win 1826 and scuba needs to push here. This is a nobrainer and yet he berates me for this call.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

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713 to win 1826 and scuba needs to push here. This is a nobrainer and yet he berates me for this call.

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Well, take the 713 back out of that 1826. You're being laid 1113:713, which isn't nearly as attractive. Add in the other severe shorty, and I'm pretty sure your crappy K isn't going to perform well enough to make calling here good. So I think this is poor.

EDIT: I'll preempt curtains and point out that this is an SNGPT question if there ever was one. If you don't have it, this isn't a very tough situation to ICM, but I'm lazy and tend to answer based on my intuitions from the time when I actually looked at these kind of things. Serious pushbot minutia aren't so important in regular Stars STT's, at least at low buyins.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

I call this in a flash.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

EZ fold. Fishy call.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

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713 to win 1826 and scuba needs to push here. This is a nobrainer and yet he berates me for this call.

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Except it's not 713 to win 1826. It's 1113 in the pot, 713 to call. You're kinda calculating winning your 'calling' chips back into the equation. You're getting 1.56:1 here, not 1826:713 as you seem to be implying.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

If I fold I'm still midlevel stack. If shortstack had 500 or 600 then the fold would be easier but I think this is the right call because if I'm in scuba's shoes you don't even look at your cards and push
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:16 AM
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Based on what? What a joke.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

I actually see 713 to win 1113 (you cant count the money you havent put in the middle yet) I don't like the call. While he's probably pushing with a very wide range, K3o is defintiely behind.

ICM says : If he's pushing as many as 75% of hands, its still -EV to call with K3o.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

what if its 90%
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: I think this is right but scuba disagrees

LOOKS LIKE I AM 2 MINUTES TOO LATE.
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