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Old 12-13-2005, 05:38 AM
MitchL MitchL is offline
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Default 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

What was a bad 8 game has made a sudden right turn when a noticeably drunk(normally decent player) sit w/ 1k proclaiming that he wants to gamble at the same time a known maniac sits down to his left. They make agreements to straddle and live three when the blinds come around and on this hand:

Drunk opens blind in utg +1, maniac blind three bets (they announce they are playing blind) folds to me in bb w/ A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

What do you do and why?
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

this seems likes a pretty easy cap to me.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

5-bet cap. I can call to close the action or 4 bet- and it gets insta-capped and I play AT oop. Not saying your wrong, but do you think 5-bet cap changes anything?

P.S. shoulda included this earlier sorry.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

5 bet cap doesn't change anything for me. I see it like this: you have the best hand on average by a lot, and every other bet going in right now is EV+ for you.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

4-bet because your hand is a favorite over two random hands.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

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5-bet cap. I can call to close the action or 4 bet- and it gets insta-capped and I play AT oop. Not saying your wrong, but do you think 5-bet cap changes anything?

P.S. shoulda included this earlier sorry.

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calling doesn't close the action
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 preflop against two maniacs

Raise them. For the love of god raise them. If you were on the button trying to steal the blinds wouldnt you raise with AT? This is the same thing. You have position, they have 2 random hands. Your ahead so much its silly.
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