Stars 5/10

imitation · #1 12-12-2005, 10:43 AM

EP limper is 50/30/2.3 over 100hands
BB who 3-bets is 35/27 but only over 40, fwiw BB has looked normal but has done some strange passive things postflop and also some stupid raising.

Every street is debateable I guess.

Do I have a value bet on the river the way it played.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.20 BB

Spartan1983 · #2 12-12-2005, 10:57 AM

I don't think a river bet is going to get either of these guys to fold. If I got this far, I'm taking a free showdown.

philnewall · #3 12-12-2005, 11:00 AM

UM...calling on flop and turn? If you want to show this down then raise the flop. A river bet would be terrible, nothing worse calls and all better hands do.

Koss · #4 12-12-2005, 11:13 AM

There's little to no value in a bet here, even though BB might call with AJ/AK. I really want to see both hands here too.

POKhER · #5 12-12-2005, 11:13 AM

Fold the flop unless you think he bets OCs alot and UTG calls down with junk.

Im liking the flop fold due to UTG.

No i dont VB the river. UTG is worrying.

Peter Harris · #6 12-12-2005, 11:40 AM

the flop call is pretty thin. turn you have to call and no i wouldn't think about betting the river.

I would probably fold the flop unless BB is a aggro overcard bettor like me and UTG is a donkey.

Transference · #7 12-12-2005, 11:55 AM

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I would probably fold the flop unless BB is a aggro overcard bettor like me and UTG is a donkey.

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Agreed, I think in this best case scenario our equity is thin but good.

Our sixes are good only when both players completely miss the flop, neither improves and neither is capable of knocking us off the best hand. Not a routine scenario for a calldown at all imo.

imitation · #8 12-12-2005, 11:58 AM

These guys are really agro, UTG is completely moronic. On the flop I have the BD straight and 2 outs for a set, the pot is already about 10BB, and I think on this flop I can be ahead or if I hit my BD have big implied odds. So I don't think the flop call is terrible, but yes probably thing, obviously I call with the intention of folding the turn UI. The turn easy.

The river, don't you think BB looks like a missed big A at this point and UTG looks like he's probably really really stupid and has nothing?? I was looking for a call from big A from BB, I expect UTG to fold.

RunDownHouse · #9 12-12-2005, 12:04 PM

I like your flop and turn plays.

I don't think you have enough to bet the river, though. I don't think you have enough of a read on BB that he'll call with an unimproved A, AND you're hoping BB doesn't have some stupid pair.

POKhER · #10 12-12-2005, 12:08 PM

Trouble is Imitation - Any card on the flop UTG MAY hold beats you. Does he not hold these cards? and if he doesnt... will he call?

I dont think so and thats why i dont value bet.