44 blind defense

[irishpint]

party 3/6 a crazy dude opens in MP and I call w/ 44 in the BB

flop comes A25...my line...I check/call. Turn is a 4 and I lead...what do you think?

[Spicymoose]

What were you planning on doing on the turn UI? I would just check raise the flop and take it from there. By "crazy" I am assuming you mean way too agressive and could be semi-stealing here with quite a bit?

[irishpint]

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What were you planning on doing on the turn UI? I would just check raise the flop and take it from there. By "crazy" I am assuming you mean way too agressive and could be semi-stealing here with quite a bit?

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uh-huh, like a 75/35/3 over a smallish (50) hand size. so if he 3bets me on the flop i feel committed to calling down. i figured he'd autoraise my turn donk w/ just about any 2, especially if he hand any ace. are you thinking a turn c/r or a flop c/r is better?

[Spicymoose]

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What were you planning on doing on the turn UI? I would just check raise the flop and take it from there. By "crazy" I am assuming you mean way too agressive and could be semi-stealing here with quite a bit?

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uh-huh, like a 75/35/3 over a smallish (50) hand size. so if he 3bets me on the flop i feel committed to calling down. i figured he'd autoraise my turn donk w/ just about any 2, especially if he hand any ace. are you thinking a turn c/r or a flop c/r is better?

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With your trips, a bet-3bet seems best on the turn. I like a flop check raise more than an unimproved turn check raise because as you said, he sometimes 3-bets the flop with worse. Plus you have 6 clean outs, so 25% equity when behind, and you are often ahead. Get that money in on the flop. If you turn check raise UI, you risk getting 3-bet by his ace, or folding out one of his worse hands that he would of continued to bluff at you.

[irishpint]

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What were you planning on doing on the turn UI? I would just check raise the flop and take it from there. By "crazy" I am assuming you mean way too agressive and could be semi-stealing here with quite a bit?

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uh-huh, like a 75/35/3 over a smallish (50) hand size. so if he 3bets me on the flop i feel committed to calling down. i figured he'd autoraise my turn donk w/ just about any 2, especially if he hand any ace. are you thinking a turn c/r or a flop c/r is better?

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With your trips, a bet-3bet seems best on the turn. I like a flop check raise more than an unimproved turn check raise because as you said, he sometimes 3-bets the flop with worse. Plus you have 6 clean outs, so 25% equity when behind, and you are often ahead. Get that money in on the flop. If you turn check raise UI, you risk getting 3-bet by his ace, or folding out one of his worse hands that he would of continued to bluff at you.

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i was afraid of a lot of turn cards and wanted a safe one before i c/r i thought, since he wasn't folding, but youre right i have the best hand there often and need to get that money

[TStoneMBD]

cc on the flop is perfect. i like the checkraise on the turn because your bet looks like you just caught your gutshot. donking is close but better if you think there is a strong chance hell raise or that hell fold a pp to a cr.

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cc on the flop is perfect.

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You think so? 44 is way too vulnerable to be giving free cards, so if there's any chance that a c/r or bet out will get a fold then I prefer that line.

[ArturiusX]

Villians are taking the free card on this flop like never.