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Old 11-08-2005, 04:07 PM
bruce bruce is offline
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Default $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

$525 turbo on Stars. I had never played in a $500 SNG before. I decided to play for two reasons, Zee Justin was playing and since he is
considered to be one of the best I'd like to play against him and watch him in action. Secondly, based on my play, I certainly thought I could compete against these guys if not beat them.

Any way the hand in question:

Seat 1 1295 BB
Seat 2 1135
Seat 3 1875
Seat 4 2060
Seat 5 1050
Seat 6 2765
Seat 8 (Me) 1540 Button
Seat 9 1780 SB

Blinds are 100/200 and I have the button.

Seat 2 is first to act and open pushes to 1135. All fold
to me on the button with ATo. I really don't have any good
reads. I have never played with anyone before. Play for
a turbo seems to be overly tight.

What is my best play?

Results to follow. Commentary apprciated.

Bruce
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:09 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

i would rather push every hand that i was first to act (excluding utg and utg+1 hands, maybe some utg+2) for the rest of the tournament, than call or overpush here.

which seat is z? is it relevant to the hand or has he folded?

what is the normal stakes at which you play?

c
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

This is definitley a fold.

Unless you are playing primarily for fun I would avoid ZeeJustin if I could. I don't think playing in a sng with him would teach you much anyways.
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

This is a fold and also you might want to work on your game selection, hehe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

Naa, AJ maaaaaaaybe but no, I'd fold before I shat my pants. AQ I'd call (shatting abundantly while watching THOSE STUPID SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ROLLING CARDS ON STARS, IM GOING CRAZY WAITING FOR THOSE RIVERSALKHGAIHGAKVBALKH
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

Z was not involved in this hand.

I normally play $100 and $200 SNG's.

Bruce
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

Why is folding correct? I'm not sure if I necessarily agree
with you. This was a turbo tournament. The blinds were about to increase. Does the villian really need to have a big hand to push with UTG? AT is certainly not a premium hand, even by any stretch of the imagination, but against the range of hands I think he is willing to push with I believe I come out ahead. If I do reraise and push what are the chances of either one of the blinds finding a hand?
From my perspective I don't think this is so black and white.

As far as avoiding a SNG because of one player, I think that's a bunch of hogwash. He might be a great player, I
have no idea and I certainly didn't find out last night, but there still are seven other players besides Zee.

Bruce
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

[ QUOTE ]
Why is folding correct? I'm not sure if I necessarily agree
with you. This was a turbo tournament. The blinds were about to increase. Does the villian really need to have a big hand to push with UTG? AT is certainly not a premium hand, even by any stretch of the imagination, but against the range of hands I think he is willing to push with I believe I come out ahead. If I do reraise and push what are the chances of either one of the blinds finding a hand?
From my perspective I don't think this is so black and white.

As far as avoiding a SNG because of one player, I think that's a bunch of hogwash. He might be a great player, I
have no idea and I certainly didn't find out last night, but there still are seven other players besides Zee.

Bruce

[/ QUOTE ]

If you were taking a shot at a higher limit (and maybe not entirely comfortable with the limit yet) would you want to play on the bubble against one of the top 3 SNG players out there or a random player?
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:49 PM
bawcerelli bawcerelli is offline
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why is folding correct? I'm not sure if I necessarily agree
with you. This was a turbo tournament. The blinds were about to increase. Does the villian really need to have a big hand to push with UTG? AT is certainly not a premium hand, even by any stretch of the imagination, but against the range of hands I think he is willing to push with I believe I come out ahead. If I do reraise and push what are the chances of either one of the blinds finding a hand?
From my perspective I don't think this is so black and white.

As far as avoiding a SNG because of one player, I think that's a bunch of hogwash. He might be a great player, I
have no idea and I certainly didn't find out last night, but there still are seven other players besides Zee.

Bruce

[/ QUOTE ]

If you were taking a shot at a higher limit (and maybe not entirely comfortable with the limit yet) would you want to play on the bubble against one of the top 3 SNG players out there or a random player?

[/ QUOTE ]

who would you say are the other two? giga. and?
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: $525: Reraising or Folding with ATo?

I'd rather not offend anyone
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